Adopting Kids From Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya etc

[pluto]

for helping me to bring tears on my eyes.

bhai, good that happened, as far as I know, you too are unmarried, and you too can make niyyah, what say? don't trust the finances, salary, put your trust on Allah SWT's treasure, you know it, 1st point of the 6 points...

Assalamu alaykum

What we do here is; adopt a orphan and admit he/she in a well organised madrasah (they offer hygenic food, washing machine facility etc). Bear all the expenses till his/her stay in madrasah. The child will get deeni education. Normally people adopt 1 to 5 children.

and this is what we do too, may Allah SWT grant and save my ikhlaas, amen. Now we are putting pressure on the madrasah zimmedars to teach them english...even putting the fikr in the students too. I eat their brain sometimes on this.

^ Is that so? Most people I know from the subcontinent are very averse to adoption, and very verbose about it. Just yesterday I had such a conversation. It was quite painful to hear the generalization and the reasons why one should not adopt. I find it irritating hearing the words "Be patient, you will be granted your own child", when the adoption idea was never about having ones own child, but rather to take care of one who has no parents.

After the child has completed his/her education, is he/she still treated as an adopted child?

true, they'll think couples must have problems or something to be adopting, but those really are small challenges, if we start looking at what the society will say, then Allah SWT forbid, nothing will get done...

As in tabligh they say, lets ask ourselves: (something on these lines)

"What does Allah SWT want from me now?"

[Abu_Tamim]

I have even thought of getting my sis to sponsor a child I'll see how it pans out... [/COLOR]



ameen,
dua's for me too sis, I too need a companion who'd understand and be willing...

Should I send you a detailed mail, bro?
We arrange for dry ration for a widow and her family for one year for Rs. 15000/-.
In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees. We'll cover the peripherals if any. There are many other options. Haven't spoken to you in a while.

[pluto]

"Be not sad, surely Allah is with us."
"Verily, with hardship comes ease".

bhai,If you visit my city, I'll get you to meet 3 top zimmedaars of my city (all doctors) who are doing some amazing amazing khidmah of the awaam including non-Muslims

[Acacia]

You again raised a very pertinent point that adopted kids could be mistreated, but due to the barakah of tabligh, my parents have raised me in a deeni environment, I really believe I can be a great father in my part of the world, such stories of kids being mistreated is an almost daily news story if I had already married and had kids, perhaps just perhaps I may not have been as keen as I'm now, 'coz now I can plan ahead, yet I think if you put your trust in Allah SWT, He will show you the way...

Good point brother and may Allah (SWT) make it possible for you.

Please, do not take my comments as being directed at you. Just by creating this thread, you've worn your heart on your sleeve (as the saying goes) and insha'Allah you will be a caregiver that Allah (SWT) is pleased with. My comments were general so that we don't pressure people to adopt who may not be in a condition to do so but everyone can contribute in one form or another insha'Allah - regardless of economic condition or temperament etc. I mean, if we could all accept from Allah (SWT) the responsibility for the needs (including love) of at least one child, it would be beautiful and insha'Allah, increasingly possible for our ummah.

May we all strive more and more to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT). Ameen.

[pluto]

Should I send you a detailed mail, bro?
We arrange for dry ration for a widow and her family for one year for Rs. 15000/-.
In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees. We'll cover the peripherals if any. There are many other options. Haven't spoken to you in a while.

bhai, we are already doing something on those lines, but you send me the mail, will be looking forward to it. but you know, we have people here too.

[pluto]

Good point brother and may Allah (SWT) make it possible for you.

Please, do not take my comments as being directed at you. Just by creating this thread, you've worn your heart on your sleeve (as the saying goes) and insha'Allah you will be a caregiver that Allah (SWT) is pleased with. My comments were general so that we don't pressure people to adopt who may not be in a condition to do so but everyone can contribute in one form or another insha'Allah - regardless of economic condition or temperament etc. I mean, if we could all accept from Allah (SWT) the responsibility for the needs (including love) of at least one child, it would be beautiful and insha'Allah, increasingly possible for our ummah.

May we all strive more and more to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT). Ameen.

actually i didn't think your post was directed at me, thats why i said you raised an important point, i'll explain why i'm insisting (a little bit) on adoption rather than sponsoring

[mh16388]

In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees.

aoa,
a side question. i hope you wont mind. should we invest in those programs that sponsor only secular education?shouldn't we look for programs where both are given?and in the absence of such dual programs should we prefer to donate to madrassahs or the said secular education programs?
i do not wish to sponsor a child's education which will make him open to non-muslim propaganda and may take him away from deen.
he may earn through either education. the best would be a program incorporating both. but in absence of such dual programs should we make a choice?

my question is for dr. sahab only. i do not wish to start an argument, on this beautiful thread atleast : )

[Acacia]

Mind if we list some information here? Here's a sampling of what I came across today:

In relation to adopting children from Afghanistan:

• There is no adoption of Afghani children, only guardianship, and this poses a problem to those from other countries in moving the child - immigration issues.
• Afghanistan is not part of the Hague Convention for adoption and this really seems to complicate matters
• That said, there seems to be a way to work around this and Insha'Allah still stay within Shariah laws. Here is something that details the process for US citizens.
• This article dated 2008? mentions a new adoption law in the making to help the over 2 million orphaned children but I don't know if such a law has come to fruition.
• Another article on the challenges of adopting children from Afghanistan

From info from some of the many other SF threads on adoption:

• Foster Care Link out of the UK linked to in another thread.
• Sponsoring an orphan listed as 1 of 10 things every Muslim in the West (and anywhere really) should do on this thread.

Here is a sampling of information about adoption from some Muslim countries. You can plug in any country here and get some information on the country you're interested in:

• Pakistan
• Turkey (and this)
• Egypt
• Iraq
• Niger
• Somalia

I read somewhere that there are some 163 million orphaned children currently around the world.

Where I live, Canada, there are over 30,000 children waiting to be adopted. Question for everyone: how about your area?

[pluto]

Mind if we list some information here? Here's a sampling of what I came across today:

In relation to adopting children from Afghanistan:

• There is no adoption of Afghani children, only guardianship, and this poses a problem to those from other countries in moving the child - immigration issues.
• Afghanistan is not part of the Hague Convention for adoption and this really seems to complicate matters
• That said, there seems to be a way to work around this and Insha'Allah still stay within Shariah laws. Here is something that details the process for US citizens.
• This article dated 2008? mentions a new adoption law in the making to help the over 2 million orphaned children but I don't know if such a law has come to fruition.
• Another article on the challenges of adopting children from Afghanistan

From info from some of the many other SF threads on adoption:

• Foster Care Link out of the UK linked to in another thread.
• Sponsoring an orphan listed as 1 of 10 things every Muslim in the West (and anywhere really) should do on this thread.

Here is a sampling of information about adoption from some Muslim countries. You can plug in any country here and get some information on the country you're interested in:

• Pakistan
• Turkey (and this)
• Egypt
• Iraq
• Niger
• Somalia

I read somewhere that there are some 163 million orphaned children currently around the world.

Where I live, Canada, there are over 30,000 children waiting to be adopted. Question for everyone: how about your area?

for research sis. i checked out adoption.state.gov & that is a really really useful website.

i found one more:
mahbobaspromise http://www.mahbobaspromise.org/ for the australian Muslims.

my area? think of a number and multiply it to the power of 10, thats India for you.

200 million, yes, 2 0 0 million go hungry daily in India, Here Much of that is not because India doesn't have food, but 'coz of mismanagement of the resources...

@aapa sudoku, just a humble suggestion, of you are going for the adoption sooner or later, go for the girl child.
there are many avenues for the male kids, but not as many for the females.

[sudoku]

@aapa sudoku, just a humble suggestion, of you are going for the adoption sooner or later, go for the girl child.

In fact this is something I very much want, especially after I read and see news of female infanticide from India and Pakistan. How someone can think of murder when looking at the sweet beautiful face of an innocent baby girl is beyond me.

I am not sure how easy it is to adopt from India. I do know Pakistan has the Edhi Foundation. It takes approximately a year or so from there.