Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12 View Post
So you have left Islam because you do not like what it says? How logically fallacious that decision is. If Islam is proven to be true, then everything that comes with it is true regardless of how you feel about it. An alcoholic cannot reject Islam on the basis that Islam prohibits alcohol (just because he himself is addicted to it and cannot understand the idea why prohibition of alcohol would be commanded by God). He must submit his will to God.

It's like someone refusing to believe that they failed their Maths test just because they don't like the idea of failing their maths test. You do not like the idea or the words of this hadith and so you reject Islam totally because of it, rather than realising that since Islam is from God (and we can prove this), the hadith MUST be true and you MUST accept the words of the Messenger of God because they MUST be true

And it is ironic that you apostate based on emotions and not reason and yet you dislike a hadith that talks about such a deficiency of women... you just proved our point
I don't think I am quite an apostate yet. I don't know where I stand at the moment, but reading hadith like this does not help.

Also - when I dislike something, I dislike it on the basis of intellect too, not just emotion, this is the basis on which most people dislike most things, a mixture. I do not like that hadith, I but I do not like it because it is unjust and is demeaning to women. I personally thinks that women should not be belittled like this. I don't think i am being unreasonable in thinking this.

And it is funny that you think you are being so logical and making fun of my 'deficiency in intellegence' just like a good Muslim man should believe I guess, but then you make the nonsensical claim that a metaphysical truth such as that of a religion can be proven to be 'objectively' true. You cannot seriously believe this? This is why some people leave Islam, and many many others will never EVER convert and others actively hate the religion. It does not mean these people are illogical because they happen to disagree with you, it means they do not buy your metaphysical ideas, they are not objectively totally proveable and people use complicated systems to decide which ideas they want to keep and which they do not.