Women deficient in intelligence?

[mercyofAllah]

dont worry sis mercy....lets not forget:

A chaste woman who is mindful of Salaat, Fasting and also serves her husband, for her all the 8 doors of Jannat are opened. She may enter from whichever door she likes

and quotes such as:

A single pious practicing woman is equal to 70 Aulia-e-Kiraam (the awesome in God-fearing).

We are what our Lord has made us and we try to please Him insha Allah

Let Allah SWT make us all pleasing to him. Ameen

[Acacia]

sister Ummitaalib.

Also, let's not forget that women were some of the closest companions of Rasulullah and that 1/4 of our deen relies on narrations from women. Very senior ulema used to narrate from women and a woman's narration is equal to a man's - this shows that honesty & trustworthiness are accorded to women by Allah (SWT).

Rasulullah designated a specific day of the week for the education of women & this shows the importance he placed on the education of women

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but, even when women are unable to pray and receive the specific reward for prayer, they aren't deprived of reward altogether - they can do dhikr and receive reward for their dhikr insha'Allah.

[mmb786]

Good posts so far....! Is it really genuinely true that a males brain is larger and heavier than a females or is it some kind of a....... joke?

[mercyofAllah]

Good posts so far....! Is it really genuinely true that a males brain is larger and heavier than a females or is it some kind of a....... joke?

I think so but that said as I posted before that cannot be taken as a reason for intelligence. Allahu alam

[dr76]

just like a light bulb.. the bigger the brighter..

(just kidding)..

[Sulaiman84]

Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses. With Deen, both men and women can compliment each other. Without Deen, both can succumb to each others weakness.

Follow Deen whoever and whatever you are and you'll be alright, .

[Maripat]

When Allah (SWT) has told us in the Noble Qur'an that man and woman are equal then we should not conclude that one is deficient in some facility unless otherwise stated by Allah (SWT) Himself. Also when Allah (SWT) says in the same Verse that man has slight preference over woman then also the conclusion does not change because this latter phrase is a tie breaker.

If we agree on that then there is at least one benefit. This shall lift the pressure from women to prove themselves equal to man. Just think of the slogan that is so common today - what is it than man can do woman can not do? Or the news item like another bastion of man falls - first all female battalion commissioned.

[mmb786]

If you ask me reason for males having a bigger brain (that's if its true) it goes like this.......

They don't use their intelligence and so its swells up in the brain. It gets bigger, bigger and BIGGER until eventually it goes............ PoP and then WHHHHOOoooooOOSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH...

And all the poor guy can do is stand there, sadly staring at all his intelligence flying to the moon :(

But from the beginning if they use their brains as ALLAH instructed them to, by being a proper upright muslim, using the mind for the right thing in the right way they will inshaAllah avoid this huge tragedy altogether.

Btw the first part is just a joke of course.

[Abu Zakir]

Asalamu Alaykum

This is a legitimate question. I am NOT starting this thread in order to debate or fight, so please don't misunderstand me. I also don't want any hyper-feminists or misogynists posting and ruining the thread, either.

The hadith "I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)" really confuses me. I am not bragging, audhubillah, but I have always been the most intelligent person in my classes. Since I was young, I always got the highest scores, the 99% percentile in the school. In my country, women, on average, score higher than the men and also more women graduate from college.

Are there different types of intellect? Because if there is only one type, I'm really not seeing how females are dumber than males.
And what of the female scholars of Quran and Hadith? Should they be ignored after their years of research? I am really confused on this subject.

Just because someone does well in school does not mean they are intelligent, there are different types of intelligences (emotional, social, intellectual, and or good with their dexterity hands, eyes, art etc.). Men today have largely become effeminate and have lost their masculinity so it is not a fair comparison today when comparing men with women. Men have become feminised because men have had less to do with bringing up male children, and women have made the men too soft. Some men over compensate their femininity my adopting a jahil macho culture. Where they think it is manly to beat women and to be mean towards them. The feminization of men may also be a consequence of drinking water etc. being contaminated with female hormones due to the use of the birth control pill etc. Maybe some people have suggested this is the meaning of the hadith which states that there will be 50 women to any 1 man towards the end of time.

Something else. "Salat becomes null and void if a dog, a donkey, or a woman comes in front". I thought salah becomes invalid if anything passes in front of a praying muslim?

:jazak

I think this might be because a woman walking in front of the man during prayer may distract the man sexually, not because the woman is similar in status to a donkey or dog. Though of course many humans including men and women are like donkeys and dogs sometimes. Imam Al Gazali said each human has a 'pig' and a 'dog' as part of their nafs and only very few people gain control of these two aspects of their own character and those of us who become enslaved to these often look like donkeys and dogs in terms of character.

[Acacia]

Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses. With Deen, both men and women can compliment each other. Without Deen, both can succumb to each others weakness.

Follow Deen whoever and whatever you are and you'll be alright, .