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    Default Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    "The servant who is unaware of his contemptibility and regards himself as honourable, is truly contemptible"
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    Default Re: Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    He may have some points, some of them I disagree with, but I just found the tone and approach in defending the curriculum to be quite distasteful. The same points could have been made with a better approach.
    Our beloved Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "On the Day of Resurrection, nothing will weigh heavier upon the scales than good character" (Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi)


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    Default Re: Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    Behind all of that rhetoric he doesn't present much of an argument. There was a thread on sunniforum discussing calls to reform the the Darse Nizami curriculum that was far more beneficial.


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    Default Re: Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    Quote Originally Posted by godilali View Post
    Behind all of that rhetoric he doesn't present much of an argument. There was a thread on sunniforum discussing calls to reform the the Darse Nizami curriculum that was far more beneficial.
    Link?


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    Default Re: Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    Expunging the wonderful Urdu Language from the Madaaris is
    indeed a tremendous error – a disaster. Undoubtedly, the Urdu
    language has become Islamicized. It is now a sacred language. It is
    the language of our Ulama and Auliya. It is part of our heritage. It
    may not be abandoned in favour of English – the language of
    savages and barbarians. The holy and Islamic ethos of the Madrasah
    will be utterly extinguished if Urdu is replaced with the language of
    the arch-enemies of Islam. Its script resembles the Qur’aanic script
    in almost exactitude. It is ludicrous to teach Hadith, Tafseer and
    Fiqh through the medium of English, a language totally bereft of
    any spirituality.
    It is our supplication that the Madrasahs in North America should
    resolutely retain the Urdu language and not succumb to pressure of
    morons and modernists who argue in favour of the language of
    those who are the leaders in immorality. Even a language has its
    peculiarities and attributes which have effects on people. People of
    English by nature are generally arrogant, shameless and lewd. Urdu
    is a language which exudes humility and spirituality. Furthermore, it
    is an easy language to learn, and there is a vast treasure of Islamic
    literature available in Urdu. Urdu is our link with our Ulama of
    India and Pakistan where the fountains of true Ilm are still to be
    found. True Ilm no longer exists in other countries.
    Over the centuries Ilm-e-Deen has travelled around the Muslim
    world, making different countries its headquarters. Since the last
    150 years or so, India had become the headquarters of Deeni Ilm. At
    least the Zaahiri Ilm of the Deen is still available at the Madaaris of
    India and Pakistan. It is nowhere else available in this era. Almost
    all institutions in other countries cater for a hybridized concoction of
    knowledge which is wholly inadequate for the production of true
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    سبحانك لا علم لنا إلا ما علمتنا إنك أنت العليم الحكيم


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    Default Re: Darse-e-Nizami and the Call of the Morons!

    I try not to read anything from the majlis, & you always getting the odd email that people pass around. its like they disagree with everyone & dont have a nice way of putting it. imagine if our great mujtahideen disagreed like this. imagin the ahnaaf calling the shawafi' bad names based on a valid difference in opinion.


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