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    Question Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah



    I will post some questions on separate issues . Appreciate the answers .

    Abdullah Bin Mas'ood used to command the people to perform four rakaats of salaah before the jummah salaah as understood from the above Ahadith. This is an indication that Abdullah Bin Mas'ood used to consider these four rakaats as Sunnat Muakkadah. In fact the Muhaditheen classify the Athar of Ibn Mas'ood as "Marfoo' Hukman". (I'laaus Al-Sunan, vol 7, pg 12, Idaratul Quran)

    What do I do if I join the Juma late . At the point of time when the Imam is giving his Khutba .

    A) Do I pray the two rakat + four rakat sunnah while the imam is giving his khutba

    B) Do I wait for the khutba and 2 rakat Juma prayer to finish then pray the four rakat + four rakats for after
    Juma

    C) do I leave the sunnah before Juma prayer completely ?


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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by zahed73 View Post
    What happens if you end up saying more then tashahud ( darood and onwards )on the sitting after second rakah in a
    four rakah / three rakah salah.

    Do you need to do anything for the mistake ?


    Nothing will happen if you are behind Imam and If you are praying individually, then if you exceed saying Muhammed (in durood) then sijdah suhu will become wajib. Nothing will happen if you say allahumma salli aala

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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

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    What do you do if you forget to say a surah after Al hamdulillah for your Fard Qadah .
    My guess is your prayer is nullified . Right ?


    Alternately same issue with a separate salah . what do you do if your saying a sunnah prayer but recite a surah on the
    3rd or 4th rakah after Alhamdullillah ?

    Do you make suh sijdah ?

    Related to the question above what is the correct way of making suh sijdah ?
    1) Reading surah fatiha and surah after it are wajib. If you leave wajib then you have to do sijda suhu.

    2) You have to recite surah after surah fatiha in 3rd as well as 4th rakat in sunnah prayer.

    3) When you are in tashahhud (in last rakat), you must do salaam after reading attahiyaath,then 2 sijdah, then continue normally..

    I hope this will help you

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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by zahed73 View Post


    I will post some questions on separate issues . Appreciate the answers .

    Abdullah Bin Mas'ood used to command the people to perform four rakaats of salaah before the jummah salaah as understood from the above Ahadith. This is an indication that Abdullah Bin Mas'ood used to consider these four rakaats as Sunnat Muakkadah. In fact the Muhaditheen classify the Athar of Ibn Mas'ood as "Marfoo' Hukman". (I'laaus Al-Sunan, vol 7, pg 12, Idaratul Quran)

    What do I do if I join the Juma late . At the point of time when the Imam is giving his Khutba .

    A) Do I pray the two rakat + four rakat sunnah while the imam is giving his khutba

    B) Do I wait for the khutba and 2 rakat Juma prayer to finish then pray the four rakat + four rakats for after
    Juma

    C) do I leave the sunnah before Juma prayer completely ?
    A) No. Listen Khutbah
    B) Refer C
    C) Since the 4 rakat sunnah before jummah prayer is Sunnate Muqida you have to perform after Jummah salah.
    4+2+ 4

    Note: The sunnah after jummah salah (4+2) are also sunnatey Moqida..
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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by شعيب‎ محمد View Post
    1) Reading surah fatiha and surah after it are wajib. If you leave wajib then you have to do sijda suhu.

    2) You have to recite surah after surah fatiha in 3rd as well as 4th rakat in sunnah prayer.

    3) When you are in tashahhud (in last rakat), you must do salaam after reading attahiyaath,then 2 sijdah, then continue normally..

    I hope this will help you

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    Sorry about the question two I have edited it in the original post. Must have been sleep deprived when I typed it.


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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by zahed73 View Post
    Got an answer from an elder on this one. Can't give you references sources as I am not familiar with them.

    What he says is to go for Sajdah in whichever point of salah you are in when you remember the mistake of not making sajdah. Then continue from the point you were doing salah .

    Example remembering in the second rakat while reciting surah , go to sajda and then start the surah recitation again standing up .
    I was just joking, even though I haven't tried that trick yet.

    Well, some years ago I had lots of problems (doubts) not only in the ^ situation but also surah fatiha (like whether I read it or not). I asked Mufti Nawal-ur-rahmaan sahab, he said me just do once (wuzu, ghusl, namaz) and don't care to it plus also apply oil to head.

    If you are getting this types of whispers again and again why don't you do like this ^.
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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by شعيب‎ محمد View Post
    I was just joking, even though I haven't tried that trick yet.

    Well, some years ago I had lots of problems (doubts) not only in the ^ situation but also surah fatiha (like whether I read it or not). I asked Mufti Nawal-ur-rahmaan sahab, he said me just do once (wuzu, ghusl, namaz) and don't care to it plus also apply oil to head.

    If you are getting this types of whispers again and again why don't you do like this ^.


    I knew you were joking before . But I am not sure if your joking or not now .... ??

    My problem is I never get my sleep wake time balance right and by nature I am lazy .

    Any way about the second question , What happens if you forget to recite a surah after Alhamdu lillah in a sunnah prayer ?


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    Default Re: Mistakes in Salah Questions and missed Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by zahed73 View Post
    What do you do if you forget to say a surah after Al hamdulillah for your Fard Qadah .
    My guess is your prayer is nullified . Right ?


    Alternately same issue with a separate salah . what do you do if your saying a sunnah prayer but do not recite a surah on the
    3rd or 4th rakah after Alhamdullillah ?

    Do you make suh sijdah ?

    Related to the question above what is the correct way of making suh sijdah ?
    Reading surah after surah fatiha in every rakat is wajib (except fardh salah). If you forget to read surah in third or fourth rakat then you have to perform sijdah suhu.

    Sijda suhu is same as I mentioned in my previous posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by شعيب‎ محمد View Post
    I was just joking, even though I haven't tried that trick yet.

    Well, some years ago I had lots of problems (doubts) not only in the ^ situation but also surah fatiha (like whether I read it or not). I asked Mufti Nawal-ur-rahmaan sahab, he said me just do once (wuzu, ghusl, namaz) and don't care to it plus also apply oil to head.

    If you are getting this types of whispers again and again why don't you do like this ^.


    for your answers.

    They were helpful . I did not understand what you said in the second paragraph. Could you explain please .
    Are you saying benefits in following the sunnah example applying oil to head.


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