Doubts / Clarification ON Tablighi Jamat

[AbdAllah313]

Asslamualykum Wa Rehamtullahi Wa Barkatuhu....

Dear Brother's and Sister's If you have any doubts about work of Tablig Jamat ask your questions inshaallah will try to answer it from Quran and HADIS...

[sabm90]

So you're from what country?

[AbdAllah313]

So you're from what country?

I am from India

[Ahmed]

Asslamualykum Wa Rehamtullahi Wa Barkatuhu....

Dear Brother's and Sister's If you have any doubts about work of Tablig Jamat ask your questions inshaallah will try to answer it from Quran and HADIS...

alhamdulillah there are already many threads on the validity and importance of the effort of dawah

[elusive]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?

[Ahmed]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

[elusive]

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

I have spent my 40 days in the UK from Dewsbury Markaz - these are questions which I have ignored and never been on my mind or were doubts. But they were just questions that have cropped up time to time which I though since this thread was opened would be a good time to ask.

Lets face it bro - most tablighi brother will not know the answer to these questions

[purana.paapi]

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.



Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply

[PirBaba]

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.



Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply

Salam u alaikum beloved brother,

In tableegh the elders have designed it in such a way where a person does a bit of mujahida and goes against his nafse for the sake of Allah, and it is hoped that inshAllah Allah Tala will then open the doors of hidayat and increase his iman/yaqeen.

To leave your home and family behind sort of gives you a tiny bit of taste of the sacrifices Sahaba gave. Sahaba would leave their families behind in the face of Death/Shahadat, whereas in tableegh all that is asked is to leave behind families for few days for the sake of Allah. The aim is to get people out of their daily life routine and provide them with an enviornment where they can focus on building strong yaqeen in Allah and also pondering over the fact that as muslims there is also a responsibility upon our shoulders to convey this message to the whole of mankind.

For a person to go out in Jammat, and especially for longer periods, a mashwara is done, and if it is evident that due to any sharee reason it is not okay for brother to leave then the elders do not let such a person go out in Jammat. This personally happened with me also.

There is no doubt that when you are involved in tableegh, it doesnt mean that you become an angel right away, infact tazkiya is a life long process that whether youre involved in the work of Dawa or not, one has to continously do it. Its not an option or a separate thing, it is a must for every muslim.

Similarly, the right fikr for the ummat and then taking action for it according to your capability is also a must. So Taleem, Tableegh and Tazkia, all three have to be done at the same time. Yes the degree of involvement may vary acorss people, but every one should do all three to reach higher level of Ihsan.

Like every mashaikh has some tarteeb how they do islah of their mureeds, similarly the mashaikh of tableegh has a tarteeb based on quran and sunnah and if followed , much benefit comes out of it. There will always be errors made by workers involved in the work, but that is because they are bashar and prone to mistakes, just like it takes a while for a mureed to rectify his faults and then after years and years of mujahida he becomes a kamil, and then there are some who dont make it. Same is the case here. But aslong as we keep striving with sincerity and ikhlas, inshAllah results will improve.


Regarding your certain other queries i will let other brothers to answer, because some of those issues i have never faced. But like i said, tableegh's work is all over the world now, the brothers in Brazil have different iklaq and dynamics than brother in a city in India. So in this work we have to overlook each others nitty gritty faults and keep the main focus on bringing the 6 qualities/points in our lives ,giving dawa and reminders of the 6 points to our muslims brothers. In reality the akabir of tableegh only wish the unity of ummah , overlooking each others maslak, faults madhabs etc.

The need of the hour is to help and remind each other collectively to hold on tight to the way of the Prophet S.w and Sahaba, and all ulema, mashaikh, people of tasawuff, people of tableegh, madaris are working towards this one goal.

Wasalam

[shiyamhoda]

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

Because being an ummati of Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasalllam you have global responsibilities.

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

You and your family have to realise that in reality its Allah only who looks after your family with or without you.

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

I dont have knowledge about that, guess we need to ask ulama.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

Again ummate muhammad sallalahu alaihi wasallam have global obligations.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

Sahaba wont recognize muslims of today as muslims.

May be this will help a little. Also listen to the speech which Maulana Abu Uzair Sahab posted about tabligi jamaat by Shaykh Mumtazul Haq Sahab.