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    Default Re: Harun Yahya Has Become Harmful

    for your Islah, I've removed the incriminated word.
    But I just can't stand the noble clothing of the Sahabiyyah being equiparated to that mock of modesty shown by those people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by umar_italy View Post
    for your Islah, I've removed the incriminated word.
    But I just can't stand the noble clothing of the Sahabiyyah being equiparated to that mock of modesty shown by those people.
    Please do not hesitate to make a polite case in support of your feelings. I personally feel lucky that we have a supporter of HY/AO on this thread. We might end up communication some thing - most effective thing that we can do on the net!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    ADNAN OKTAR: This one says; "My dear Master, you look very stylish again." Yes that is true. "May Allah be pleased with you Master. You serve Islam, Master," he says. "The only matter I do not understand is this; You always have beautiful ladies with make-up in your programs," he says. "What is the wisdom in that?" he asks. "Ladies are not talking," he says.

    Well, my brother women are the most beautiful, sweetest beings of the world. I feel all cheered up when I look at them, let me state this openly. I mean I feel the rush of adrenalin. They are the sweetest of the world, they have the cutest look in their eyes. I enjoy their love, I enjoy complimenting them. I enjoy their loving me, I enjoy loving them. I mean I am a bit lively hearted. I am crazy in love with Allah. I am a person who enjoys love. I cannot live like those bone headed men, I feel uncomfortable. I do not like it at all. There are those men who are like cattles at some places. They talk slowly and lamely, there is a soulless, ill omened expression on their faces; an absolute stone head. There is not a single word of love, not a single word of enthusiasm. They do not talk about Allah. Even if they do so, they do it insincerely. What he stands up for is ambiguous, what he is talking about is ambiguous.

    Look I like flowers, even this one, this is an artificial flower but I like it. Pen for instance, look, my pen is very beautiful, look I am showing it, it is exquisite; I like it a lot. I enjoy beauty. Beril is beautiful for instance, I like her. This sweet one, my dear one here, is very beautiful; my dear one here is very beautiful as well. This is enthusiasm. The people in my nation are very beautiful as well. I would go to Mardin and I love the grandfathers there, there are mothers, old women, they are very beautiful as well. The vineyards in Tokat are beautiful, we go to Edirne, the dialect people have in Edirne is beautiful. The sea in İzmir is very beautiful, people there are very beautiful, people of Izmir are very sweet people. Antalya has a different beauty. One should have a lively heart, I mean one should be enthusiastic, one should be full of love. I do not like such a world as dry as a bone, it is such a weird world, I hate such a world, I do not like it at all. What kind of people these are? For instance they gather and have a round table meeting and they talk using manners like; "Mr.Naci, you go on". I mean that is an enormously disturbing manner. What is this my brother? How could life be like this?

    For instance there is a world scale beautiful girl, a very sweet one.. Well they make me say it openly; for instance Pelin Batu from Haberturk. She is the sweetest, a very sweet thing. One wouldn't know what to say. But they embarrass her, etc.. Of course all my previous words are not for them. But I mean one would make compliments. She is very sweet, one should develop a liking for her. How could one have it in to hurt her? How could she be made sad? How could one find it in his heart to embarrass her? Let us assume that she had said something wrong, how is it acceptable to embarrass a young girl in front of thousands, millions of people? A young girl should be honored. I really am surprised at that. For instance there is another very sweet young girl, again she too is a very sweet person, she used to go on TV with them. They do not compliment her even with a single word or anything. She is the sweetest. But they act as if there is a stone sitting there. But there is a very beautiful and a very sweet person sitting there. I mean how could one be that careless? It is as if she does not exist at all, as if she is not there, I mean the manner they use- I look and see that- they act as if she is not there. I wouldn't treat her as if she does not exist. For instance I would not treat those beautiful eyes as if they do not exist

    Mr. Adnan Oktar: I am a man of love, I do not like lovelessness

    Excerpt from Mr.Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on A9 TV and Kackar TV dated July 1st, 2011


    So Okhtar has turned into a pimp. He even dresses and has his hair made up like a tout now. I think that alongwith Kabbani and Haqqani, we can add Okhtar to the list of Jewish agents. Allahu musta'an.
    First time I read this ppost of yours yesterday it was deeply ttroubling. But today I'm thinking, did he say tthat so that the women there don't feel offended by such a question posed openly ?

    As for the content of his answer, its a honest premise but a flawed conclusion. Yes I love nature, women and so many of the creations of God in a manner that raises adrenaline for sure. The prophet also said that he considered women, perfume and worship of Allah as most precious or beautified thing to him.
    But the conclusion implied from it is flawed as it the Quranic command to lower the sight and secondly because I wouldnt want my women folk being put in a position where man gather around and praise her beauty. Just as streets have rights, women have rights on who should look at her and men have to respect that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by islamdawa View Post
    Our Prophet (saas) also communicated Islam to those who were not dressed Islamically. Speaking to non-mahram in an open place, it is not haram. It is not halwat.
    If we leave models, young men and women who live un-Islamic life, how can we save them from kuffar?

    so several examples that you set, such as stealing and giving sadaqah,.. these examples are not proportional to this case
    inshaAllah u Teala
    are u even serious? those are not any normal women...he is listening to music with those women, not giving dawah, for God's sake, reflect on what u said...don't bring the Prophet pbuh into this..


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    Default Re: Harun Yahya Has Become Harmful

    didnt read thread if already discussed pls delete my cmment


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    Default Re: Harun Yahya Has Become Harmful

    This this what i think (and i can be wrong)....

    If making da'wah involves making sin: IT IS WRONG. Full stop.

    You can't commit haraam by speaking to ghair mahrams, intermingling with scantily dressed women and going to dico's and bar's to make da'wah and invite people to islaam. It just doesn't make sense...

    Da'wah is holy work, the work of the ambiya and it must be treated as such.
    Our Lord! Take us not to task if we forget or fall into error. (2:286)


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    Default Re: Harun Yahya Has Become Harmful

    he is enjoying the music, what dawah is he making? let us all make dua for uncle harun and harunpnotized sister islamdawa


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    Quote Originally Posted by pluto View Post
    he is enjoying the music, what dawah is he making? let us all make dua for uncle harun and harunpnotized sister islamdawa
    ........to come out of her harunicinations and put a stop to her harunicating


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    Default Re: Harun Yahya Has Become Harmful

    what?
    is this for real?what has he done?


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    May Allah (SWT) protect us.

    This whole show and its shady characters are dangerous and a waste of time. The danger here is twofold: (1) waste time on this rather than spending it on other things that will be beneficial - like ibadaat; and (2) deceptive and corrupt.

    Steer clear... especially since ALHAMDULILLAH we have been blessed with the Qur'an and sunnah as well as many [edit] true scholars, leaders, elders, awliya...

    There is a danger that is evident to some of us and somehow quite hidden for others... this part is really shocking to me - that we can see the mind-numbing effect this has on some. May Allah (SWT) protect us.

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم



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    b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm

    I seek refuge in Allah from Shaitan, the accursed one
    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful


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