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    I've been reading "Sufficient Provision for the Seekers of the Path of Truth [Al Ghunya il-Talibi Tariqa al Haqq]" by Shaykh Abdul Qadir al Jilani . I'm still on the first volume of the english translation and in it I found this:

    As for shaving the nape of the neck [qafa], this is also undesirable, except in the special case of blood-cupping [hijama], since the Prophet :SAW: forbade the shaving of the back of the head, except in the case of the cupping because it is a practice of the Magians [Majus]. Abu Abdi'llah Ahmad [ibn Hanbal] used to shave it for the purpose of cupping, which can also be regarded as an emergency situation [hal ad-darura]
    -Sufficient Provision for the Seekers on the Path of Truth, Volume 1, p. 311

    Since the Shaykh was Hanbali, I tried to find the Hanafi opinion on this and this is what I've found:
    It is permissible to shave the back of the neck, not the back of the head. The neck begins from below the earlobes. (Ahsanul Fataawa vol.8 pg.76; HM Saeed)

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...11275&act=view

    and I found this is Bahishti Zewar:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rules Concerning Hair
    9. Shaving the hair of the lower lip is regarded as a bid'ah by the jurists. Therefore this should not be done. Similarly, they have said it is makruh[*] to remove the hair that is on the nape of the neck.
    -Bahishti Zewar for Males p. 477

    So, now I'm very confused.


    *when Maulana Thanwi says Makruh, is it makruh tanzih or makruh tahrim?


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    Default Re: Is shaving the back of the neck makruh?

    "It is permissible to shave the back of the neck, not the back of the head. The neck begins from below the earlobes. (Ahsanul Fataawa vol.8 pg.76; HM Saeed)

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai"

    It is permissible to shave the back of the neck, not the back of the head this sounds very Confusing to me, can any one calrify.
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    Default Re: Is shaving the back of the neck makruh?

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

    As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh.


    At the outset, “Al Ghuniyatut Talibīn” of Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani rahimahullah is a hanbali text, as you have correctly pointed out. Hence it is not suitable for a hanafī to read through this text for learning Fiqh.

    According to the hanafī madhab, it is permissible to shave the nape as mentioned by Hazrat Mufti Ebrahim Desai Saheb in the fatwa you quoted. Maulana Rasheed Ahmed Ludhiyanwi rahimahullah, a luminary of our era writes about this issue in his collection Ahsanul Fatāwa:

    “It is mentioned in ‘Alamgīrī (Fatawa al Hindiyyah) that shaving the “Qafā” is Makrūh.

    وَعَنْ أبي حَنِيفَةَ رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى يُكْرَهُ أَنْ يَحْلِقَ قَفَاهُ إلَّا عِنْدَ الْحِجَامَةِ

    “On authority of Abu Hanīfa rahimahullahu ta‘āla it is mentioned
    that it is makrūh to shave Qafā except at the time of cupping…”[1]
    Most probably Imdādul Fatāwa’s[2] answer was given based on this statement, taking the meaning of Qafā to be nape. The reality is that Qafā can mean back part of head (urdu:guddi) as well as nape. The back portion of the head is included in the head while nape is a separate part. In the section about Masah of nape, Imdādul Fatāwa mentions clearly that Qafā is part of head while nape is excluded from head.

    Hence back portion of the head is inclusive of the Karahiyyah (dislikeness) of shaving while there is no apparent reason for the shaving of nape to be Makrūh. Hadhrat Mufti Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi rahimahullah mentions, “Neck is a separate part and head is a separate part.

    Hence it is permissible to shave the hairs on nape. The joint for head can be felt at the back in line of bottom of the ear lobes. Below this joint is nape.[3]”

    (Ahsanul Fatāwā, Vol. 8 Pg. 76)

    The mas’alah of Bahishti Zewar which you have mentioned is from Bahishti Gohar[4]. The actual ibarah in urdu is :

    ریش بچہ کے جانبین لب زیرین کے بال منڈوانے کو فقہاء نے بدعت لکھا ہے اس لے نہ چاہیے۔ اس طرح گدّی کے بال بنوانے کو بھی فقہاء نے مکروہ لکھا ہے۔
    Fuqahā’ have classified shaving of the hairs on the two sides of baby beard under the lower lip to be an innovation. It should not be done. Similarly it is makrūh to fashion the hairs on the back part of the head.

    (Bahishti Gohar Pg. 115, Allah Bakhsh)

    We feel that the above statement from Bahishti Gohar was incorrectly translated, hence the confusion. The urdu statement is clear.

    As for shaving the back portion of head being Makrūh according to Imam Abu Hanifa rahimahullah, then it refers to Makruh Tahrīmi.[5]

    And Allah Ta’āla Knows Best

    Mufti Faisal bin Abdul Hameed,
    Montréal, Canada

    Checked and Approved by,
    Mufti Ebrahim Desai.


    [1] الفتاوى الهندية (5/ 357)، دار الفكر

    [2] Imdadul Fatāwa is compilation of Maulana Ashrah Ali Thanvi rahimahullah’s fatawa.

    [3] Fatāwa Rasheediyyah Pg. 467

    [4] Bahishti Gohar is not part of Bahishti Zewar however is printed as the 11th Part of it.

    [5] وَعَنْ أبي حَنِيفَةَ وَأَبِي يُوسُفَ رَحِمَهُمَا اللَّهُ تَعَالَى أَنَّهُ إلَى الْحَرَامِ أَقْرَبُ كَذَا في الْهِدَايَةِ وهو الْمُخْتَارُ هَكَذَا في شَرْحِ أبي الْمَكَارِمِ هذا هو الْمَكْرُوهُ كَرَاهَةَ تَحْرِيمٍ(الفتاوى الهندية - ط. دار الفكر (5/ 308))


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