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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabm90 View Post
    We have jamia Hafsa and Alqaeda's forums. No need to ask anyone.
    My point is on what basis are you abandoning Jihad related issue. Security is no issue. And if you are then admit this forum has biasness towards jihad when the ummah is in utmost need of it.
    Bro, the forum moderators are not against Jihad. But many of the members are based on US, UK, Canada and will be on the receiving end of those Countries Laws. Recently a Muslim bussiness man was detained for just sending an sms 'Blow the competition away'. Even if it was totaling unrelated to 'blowing' anything he got detained. So just to save the forum members from such fitna the mods have made a stand on this. That DOES NOT mean they are against it.

    Edit: Mufti Saheb says it himself:

    Quote Originally Posted by abuhajira View Post
    brother,

    please note that the rule states "However, please note this does not in anyway mean we do not agree with such an integral part of our Deen." So obviously no one here is dictating anyone to "not be" something and "be a khanqahi, tableeghi and a madrassa student"".

    Let me engage you and ask you. What do you do? What is your field?
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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by abuhajira View Post


    2.23 After much consultation and reflection the Shura of sunniforum.com has unanimously decided that any discussions relating to jihad are strictly not allowed on sunniforum.com. If any such discussions are created, all associated threads and posts will be removed immediately from our forum. However, please note this does not in anyway mean we do not agree with such an integral part of our Deen. We take the safety, security and peace of mind of our members, the Shura, Moderators and Ulama of our forum very seriously and it is for this reason we have decided sunniforum.com will not cater for any jihad related discussions. Jazakallahu khairun for your cooperation.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...orum.com-Rules

    If the issue is related to security then I am sure you can use the tools used by the forums where discussions take place on Jihad everyday. I know of SSL certificates, i know of encryption (SSH) and other techniques that can stop your threads to be searched via Google or other search engines.
    This is not a reason I guess. Sorry to say.


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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by amr123 View Post
    Bro, the forum moderators are not against Jihad. But many of the members are based on US, UK, Canada and will be on the receiving end of those Countries Laws. Recently a Muslim bussiness man was detained for just sending an sms 'Blow the competition away'. Even if it was totaling unrelated to 'blowing' anything he got detained. So just to save the forum members from such fitna the mods have made a stand on this. That DOES NOT mean they are against it.

    Edit: Mufti Saheb says it himself:
    We have a canadian based forum and we openly discuss such issues there.!
    Dunya ki mehfilon se ukta gaya hun ya RABB,
    Kiya lutf e anjuman ka jab dil hi bujh gaya ho.!


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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabm90 View Post
    We have a canadian based forum and we openly discuss such issues there.!
    Bro I don't know if you are aware or not. Hundreds of Muslims have been detained in the west for such matters, even if they had not relation to this topic whatsoever. The mods are just taking a precaution.
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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by amr123 View Post
    Bro I don't know if you are aware or not. Hundreds of Muslims have been detained in the west for such matters, even if they had not relation to this topic whatsoever. The mods are just taking a precaution.
    Does this mean that we stop discussing Jihad?
    Dunya ki mehfilon se ukta gaya hun ya RABB,
    Kiya lutf e anjuman ka jab dil hi bujh gaya ho.!


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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    should precaution be taken for something avoidable?
    read what Ak1990 said...im interested to know what moulana has to say about the security threat he feels is present.

    p.s are the brothers' section threads and sensitive Qa threads available online?if no then how are they protected?
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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by amr123 View Post
    Bro I don't know if you are aware or not. Hundreds of Muslims have been detained in the west for such matters, even if they had not relation to this topic whatsoever. The mods are just taking a precaution.
    They are detained when they become totally 'careless'. Things like writing your original name in Username, giving your original address to the forum, using your original IP, making plans related to Jihad and recruiting people without any precaution.
    On sunniforum, we are ONLY discussing things related to jihad and they relate to political events. I think if such discussions are not held the Ummah will continue to be oppressed as the rest of the Ummah won't know about their pains...


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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?



    amr123

    These issues are normal. Every bit of this forum is being recorded and noted. Every ip is traced. If us mods can trace ips of individuals, then you can imagine for intelligence companies.

    SF cherishes to be one of the top islamic forums on the web, hence the most amount of dibs for the intelligence. We have had incidents which we cannot disclose, where the security of member(s), for one reason or the other were compromised. We cannot take responsibility for every member who will come and post in their zealous emotions. The safest is to limit the discussions.

    We also know there are many other forums which openly discuss Jihad issues. So it is not an opportunity lost. If someone wishes to discuss these issues, they can avail the opportunity to engage in those forums.

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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    These security issues are not related to Jihad but are related to La Illaha ilallah.!

    No matter what you do, the West will come up with a reason and if you compromise, perhaps a day will come when you would need to compromise on the very basic testimony as well.!
    Dunya ki mehfilon se ukta gaya hun ya RABB,
    Kiya lutf e anjuman ka jab dil hi bujh gaya ho.!


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    Default Re: Why was the ttp thread deleted?

    how are the sensitive QA and brothers/sisters section hidden?
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