Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) & Space/Time Explanation?

[Colonel_Hardstone]

If you carefully read and listen to our dear, respected and beloved Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA)’s lectures you will find that he explains that Dajjal is currently in a different time/space (its actually spacetime and from here on I will refer to it as such) and hence we are unable to see him. Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA)’s explanation leaves a number of questions unanswered:

Problem 1: Getting ready for time travel?

Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) postulates in his lectures about Isra Wal-Miraaj that this event took Sayyidina Rasul-ullah to a different spacetime continuum and in order for Sayyidina Rasul-ullah to enter this his heart had to be taken out (cleaned and treated). Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that Dajjal is also not in our spacetime.

If Dajjal is in a different spacetime and Sayyidina Rasul-ullah needs preparation to enter such realms then how come Sayyidina Tamim Dari (RA) entered this other realm without preparation and actually met Dajjal as mentioned in Saheeh Muslim?

Problem 2: (Samawaat)Heavens are in a different spacetime?

Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that during Miraaj when Sayyidina Rasul-ullah went up he actually entered a different spacetime i.e. Samawaat (heavens) is not our universe we know BUT a different reality.

If Samawaat (heavens) is not the universe we know BUT a different reality then how come when the Angels shoot down the Shaytaan, the meteors are visible in our reality?

[37:6] Verily, We have decorated the nearest sky with an adornment, the stars,
[37:7] and (have made them) a security against every rebellious devil.
[37:8] They cannot listen to the Upper Realm and are hit from every side
[37:9] to be driven off, and for them there is a lasting punishment;
[37:10] however, if one snatches a little bit, he is pursued by a bright flame.

Problem 3: Dajjal is chained up in a different reality?


Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that Dajjal is released in a different spacetime then how come Sayyidina Rasul-ullah specifically pointed out that Dajjal is in the East in Hadeeth? He could have easily said that you can't see it etc?

1. Was he in the same spacetime Sayyidina Rasul-ullah when he was chained?
2. Since Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) postulates that he has now been released is he gone to a different spacetime and will then come back into ours?

Where is the evidence for this shifting spacetime?

[xs11ax]

i have said this before as well.

it seems like moulana comes up with theories that tie in with current events - and then makes the hadith fit his theories like bashing a square peg into a round hole.

[warea]

The probable answer to first is that tamim ad dari found dajjal when he was still tied up.
Secondly, being in different dimenesion does not mean he would not at all come to our dimension.


As for third question:
Dajjal being in the east might be his direction of emergence or direction of presence at that particular time and so forth. Being in east does not mean dajjal would not travel.

Note:
Im being a advocate because I do not see your questions are crucial points to falsify the ttheory. And not because i do not have my own personal reservations about it.

[silentflute]

If you carefully read and listen to our dear, respected and beloved Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA)’s lectures you will find that he explains that Dajjal is currently in a different time/space (its actually spacetime and from here on I will refer to it as such) and hence we are unable to see him. Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA)’s explanation leaves a number of questions unanswered:

Problem 1: Getting ready for time travel?

Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) postulates in his lectures about Isra Wal-Miraaj that this event took Sayyidina Rasul-ullah to a different spacetime continuum and in order for Sayyidina Rasul-ullah to enter this his heart had to be taken out (cleaned and treated). Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that Dajjal is also not in our spacetime.

If Dajjal is in a different spacetime and Sayyidina Rasul-ullah needs preparation to enter such realms then how come Sayyidina Tamim Dari (RA) entered this other realm without preparation and actually met Dajjal as mentioned in Saheeh Muslim?

Problem 2: (Samawaat)Heavens are in a different spacetime?

Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that during Miraaj when Sayyidina Rasul-ullah went up he actually entered a different spacetime i.e. Samawaat (heavens) is not our universe we know BUT a different reality.

If Samawaat (heavens) is not the universe we know BUT a different reality then how come when the Angels shoot down the Shaytaan, the meteors are visible in our reality?

[37:6] Verily, We have decorated the nearest sky with an adornment, the stars,
[37:7] and (have made them) a security against every rebellious devil.
[37:8] They cannot listen to the Upper Realm and are hit from every side
[37:9] to be driven off, and for them there is a lasting punishment;
[37:10] however, if one snatches a little bit, he is pursued by a bright flame.

Problem 3: Dajjal is chained up in a different reality?


Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) also explains that Dajjal is released in a different spacetime then how come Sayyidina Rasul-ullah specifically pointed out that Dajjal is in the East in Hadeeth? He could have easily said that you can't see it etc?

1. Was he in the same spacetime Sayyidina Rasul-ullah when he was chained?
2. Since Shaykh Imran Hosein (HA) postulates that he has now been released is he gone to a different spacetime and will then come back into ours?

Where is the evidence for this shifting spacetime?

As-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuhu,
Very interesting points brother and questions which should be put to Shaykh Imran Hossein, Have you thought about emailing him and sending these points over to see what his response would be as I would love to see the responses to these question.
I have emailed Shaykh in the past and always had quick replies, I can provide an email address if you do not have it and would like to put this point over to him?
Jazak-Allah
Was-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakatuhu`

[sakeranz]

the meteors are visible in our reality?

well in "upper relams" there is also water, but can we see it?

same with this "meteors" it's the "upper realms" meteor, not our worldly meteors.......

Allah knows best

[Colonel_Hardstone]

The probable answer to first is that tamim ad dari found dajjal when he was still tied up.
Secondly, being in different dimenesion does not mean he would not at all come to our dimension.


As for third question:
Dajjal being in the east might be his direction of emergence or direction of presence at that particular time and so forth. Being in east does not mean dajjal would not travel.

Note:
Im being a advocate because I do not see your questions are crucial points to falsify the ttheory. And not because i do not have my own personal reservations about it.

Thats what I also think that if we hold his theory to be correct then we must also admit that dajjal moves in/out of our spacetime which Shaykh (HA) admits by saying that when 1 day = 1 day he will be in our spacetime.

BUT then your explainations also pose further questions that if Dajjal was in our spacetime at that time then how come Tamim Dari (RA) met him when Shaykh (HA) claims that Dajjal's Island is UK? How can a boat float along from Jeddah to UK with that level of technology?

[silentflute]

Thats what I also think that if we hold his theory to be correct then we must also admit that dajjal moves in/out of our spacetime which Shaykh (HA) admits by saying that when 1 day = 1 day he will be in our spacetime.

BUT then your explainations also pose further questions that if Dajjal was in our spacetime at that time then how come Tamim Dari (RA) met him when Shaykh (HA) claims that Dajjal's Island is UK? How can a boat float along from Jeddah to UK with that level of technology?

As-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuhu,

In reagrds to Tamin Dari (RA) meeting Dajjal, thsi is taken from Shaykh Imran Hossein's official website under the question and answer section.
http://www.imranhosein.org/faq/55-si...n-of-time.html

The question was asked "How could Tamim al-Dari have seen Dajjal if he is not in our dimension of time?"
The answer was "I do not believe that this was an actual journey. Rather, I believe that Tamim al-Dari most probably had a vision and not an actual experience with a meeting with Dajjal in our dimension of space and time."

In reference to Dajjal's island being the UK and then taking the above answer into account I as a fan of Shaykh Hossein do find it difficult to understand and will contact Shaykh for an explanation.

In regards to 'How can a boat float along from Jeddah to UK with that level of technology?' brother a miracle of Allah can make the boat travel from Jeddah to the UK in a blink of an eye such as the way the companions of the cave explained in surah Kahf slept for almost 300 years, just the way Our beloved (saws) was taken to the heavens so this shouldn't be a question to worry about but the rest of it does require deeper explanation.

Jazak-Allah
Was-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakatuhu`

[Colonel_Hardstone]

As-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuhu,

In reagrds to Tamin Dari (RA) meeting Dajjal, thsi is taken from Shaykh Imran Hossein's official website under the question and answer section.
http://www.imranhosein.org/faq/55-si...n-of-time.html

The question was asked "How could Tamim al-Dari have seen Dajjal if he is not in our dimension of time?"
The answer was "I do not believe that this was an actual journey. Rather, I believe that Tamim al-Dari most probably had a vision and not an actual experience with a meeting with Dajjal in our dimension of space and time."

In reference to Dajjal's island being the UK and then taking the above answer into account I as a fan of Shaykh Hossein do find it difficult to understand and will contact Shaykh for an explanation.

In regards to 'How can a boat float along from Jeddah to UK with that level of technology?' brother a miracle of Allah can make the boat travel from Jeddah to the UK in a blink of an eye such as the way the companions of the cave explained in surah Kahf slept for almost 300 years, just the way Our beloved (saws) was taken to the heavens so this shouldn't be a question to worry about but the rest of it does require deeper explanation.

Jazak-Allah
Was-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakatuhu`

Brother,

So in the first instance the Shaykh (HA) is rejecting the opinion of overwhelming majority of Muslims and claiming that Tamim Dari (RA) had a vision and it wasn’t a physically contact.

In general here is what I find difficult, you either try to make rational (logical or scientific) explanations OR you rely on these matters being of Karaamah. You can’t chop/change when you are pushed into a corner and asked for an explanation.

You can’t claim PHYSICAL MEETING of Tamim Dari (RA) which implies

• That he entered another continuum
• And then also claim that his boat ride from Jeddah to UK was miraculous.

If our Shaykh (HA) is claiming that Tamim Dari (RA) had a vision then he is under no obligation to explain the boatride but then he has to clearly say that I am departing from the understanding of all Scholars and claiming this to be a vision.

Do you get me?

[silentflute]

I asked a question about the hadith of Tamim Al Dari (RA) and the concept of the time mentioned such as day like a year etc and the suhaba (RA) asking about salah and the response from Shaykh Imran Hossein was ..

"My attempt in explaining it can be found in the chapter on THE QURAN AND TIME in my book entitled Surah al-Kahf and the Modern Age.

If you are not convinced by my explanation I can offer nothing more.

with love,"

I haven't had time or a chance to go and read this section.

[silentflute]

Brother,

So in the first instance the Shaykh (HA) is rejecting the opinion of overwhelming majority of Muslims and claiming that Tamim Dari (RA) had a vision and it wasn’t a physically contact.

In general here is what I find difficult, you either try to make rational (logical or scientific) explanations OR you rely on these matters being of Karaamah. You can’t chop/change when you are pushed into a corner and asked for an explanation.

You can’t claim PHYSICAL MEETING of Tamim Dari (RA) which implies

• That he entered another continuum
• And then also claim that his boat ride from Jeddah to UK was miraculous.

If our Shaykh (HA) is claiming that Tamim Dari (RA) had a vision then he is under no obligation to explain the boatride but then he has to clearly say that I am departing from the understanding of all Scholars and claiming this to be a vision.

Do you get me?

As-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuhu,
I agree brother I have had previous email exchanges with Shaykh Hossein but believe he is very busy at the moment.
If you could be so kind to put an email together with the points mentioned I will be more than happy to contact Shaykh for an explanation.
Was-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakatuhu`