Zad ut Talibeen: Effective for who, when and how?

[Sunni_Student786]

As salaamu alaykum.

In many a Darul Uloom one sees that the hadith collection "Zaad ut Taalibeen" is used to teach Arabic. Specifically, the hadith contained therein are analyzed grammatically, i.e. I'rab or "Tarkeeb" of them is made. I am sure that doing so has proven effective at teaching Arabic or I'rab or else the practice wouldn't be so widespread. However, how valuable or effective do think this method is? Furthermore, at what stage of one's Arabic learning journey are its benefits best realized?

I once read a post of Mufti Yusuf Mullan's on forums.shariahprogram.ca where he commented that making I'rab of some of the longer sentences in Qasas book 3 was probably more beneficial for a student who completed books 1&2 rather than doing Tarkeeb of the hadiths contained in Zaad ut Taalibeen. Does anyone else agree?

Furthermore, to repeat a previous question, exactly when and at what stages of one's Arabic learning journey would making Takeeb of Zad ut Taalibeen be most beneficial? Further still, how can one maximize its benefit for this purpose?

If some of my more experienced and knowledgeable brothers and sisters could shed light on the above insha'allah, I would appreciate it.

Jazakallahu Khair.

Wa'salaam.

[maaz]

I'm just gleaning here:

Its been while since I flipped through Zad-ut Talibeen (White Thread Press version), but it was mostly small phrases, and not always even full sentences. Also I think the purpose of using that book in the madaris was not soley for arabic adab, but rather spiritual reformation and introduction to hadiths. So Qasas3, which used essentially for Arabic language only, which has full stories and full sentences I can see it being better for acquiring Arabic Adab if you're directly comparing the two almost due to volume of sentences to analyze and the completeness and variety of sentences. Ideally a student would cover both books, in succession, or concurrently as I'm sure you are aware. In ealim.org its used in second year, first semester alongside Qasas, which Qasas, I'm not sure, but that is their 3rd Qasas course...In ealim, its also has the course code HDT201 and not ADB or NHW if that is any indication of how the book is perceived. I hope that helps.

http://www.ealim.org/index.php?optio...rses&Itemid=20

And Darul Qasim seem to skip it altogether in the their Shaykh ul Hind Program, but definitely seem to cover all 5 Qasas:

http://immersion.darulqasim.org/?page_id=22