what modernists do:
1. form an opinion about a matter.
2. google the statement of the matter
3. look for any 'scholar' who has agreed with them or tried to dispute with the opposite stance.
4. if they cant find scholars look for some layman pretending to be a scholar who agrees with them or find a classic layman who gives a half baked argument in favor of their opinion.
5. regurgitate the name of the 'scholar' (if they find any) or the layman-scholar or the layman's argument whenever they can and play the differences of opinion card.
6. accuse the actual scholars of every crime committed on the face of the earth by anyone even slightly religious looking.
7. accuse the supporters of the actual scholars of intolerance, sectarianism and violence.
8. misguide tons of people.(illa ma sha Allah) by leading them to haram, to hatred of scholars, to worship of nafs etc etc.
i hope everyone now is clear why the modernists are a cancer to the ummah.
May Allah guide them and us.
Suhaib Webb is also someone who has flip flopped and went from one organization to the next.
Furthermore, even that list you've provided, you have to prove that these matters are agreed upon by complete unanimity. I can tell you that they're not, especially when people get into defining what exactly is slander or spying or finality or unlawful murder or even drinking alcohol. For example, in the Hanafi madhhab, only alcohol that is derived from grapes and dates specifically is haraam. Otherwise, alcohol that may be synthetic or derived from other sources and if it does not intoxicate - it is considered permissible (an example would be alcohol used to carry flavour in modern manufacturing processes, which would make the product haraam for non-Hanafis but people who like to pick and choose and follow their desires choose the Hanafi position in this regard). Even the obligation of the five daily prayers is contested, especially if you consider the Shi'a to be Muslim - which automatically includes THEIR beliefs as being valid differences in opinion. The Shi'a have three prayers, for example. "Abusing, cursing, and defaming others" is also something that is challenged and there is no ijma' on this: the Shi'a say it is praiseworthy to curse the Sahaba , the pure wives رضي الله عنهن, and anyone who "opposed" the Ahlul Bayt. Is this a valid opinion? If you consider them Muslims, then their opinions are supposed to be acceptable to you, since you accept all minority opinions to be valid.
Even the most basic belief - the oneness of God - has been contested by "minority opinion". The Alawi Shi'a believe that 'Ali is God. The Druze also believed that God came down as a human. Now, both of these groups have been expelled from the folds of Islam by the ulama because of their perversion of this fundamental belief of Islam because of their minority opinion.
If you think Suhaib Webb is a good representation of a great 'alim, you're sorely mistaken because your gauge for measuring how good a scholar is appears not to be based upon adherence or promotion of haqq despite opposition, but taking the path of least resistance to placate everyone. Do you even know why the Deobandis or Barelvis or Salafis exist? These groups exist because each believes that there is a fundamental difference between them on the most basic of things.
ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا
This thread is full of opinions, but very short on Adab. The scholars Sheikh Suhaib Webb and Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi have been spoken of in ways that it is not good to speak of learned people - even if they follow a different school of thought from yourself. Those Scholars who permit music have seemingly been compared to Alawites and Druze because they hold a minority view!?
Really this is not nice.
I agree to your comment generally..despite of his opinion here, he's a Mufti now so let us give him some respect. We congratulated a moderator recently graduating as a Mufti on SF..let's not forget Sh. Suhaib Webb is a Mufti now too.
thank you for the simple answer
that is the answer i was searching for
but i didnot want all that arguments done by the other people
i was a very adddictive listener of bollywood songs but now i am trying to avoid them as much as i can..
can we listen those music which show the love of ALLAH?
We really need someone of the calibre of Mufti Abu Hajira, Mufti Javed etc to write a comprehensive response on this topic, in particular addressing the desperate claim of 'iktilaaf' on the issue. Some of these modern american Imams are diluting the deen to such an extent that it's barely recognisable, wheeling out the same 'there's no criticism when theres ikhtilaaf' mantra if anyone tries to say otherwise and here you see their followers doing the same. In some ways you can't really blame them, Shaytaans pull on the nafs is strong and they will desperately cling onto any 'fatwa' legitimising their sinful deeds, regardless of how obscure or faraway from mainstream and Ijmah it may be.
As Shaykh Abu Yusuf once said, "a person of taqwa does not shop for a fatwa"
Unfortunately many of these youth are now doing exactly the opposite, scouring all corners of the globe in their desperate search for a fatwa permitting what their nafs desires.
May Allah guide us all.