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    How should a hanafi pray Asr prayer in Saudi Arabia (apart from masjid haram and masjid e nabwi). If someone is working and living there then what should he do regularly, pray in masjid with jamah or pray alone at home.



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    My question was apart from haramain. Like some one is living in Riyadh.then.


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    Default Re: Hanafi Asr Prayer in Saudi Arabia

    this question was asked on SF before, so do a search. but this for the shafi' in hanafi area: waqtu fadhilah is usualy the awwal or earliest time but if there is not jamaat because all the masajid are hanafi then we should wait until the hanafis have their jamaat & it is sunnah then to delay because we expecting a jamaat at a later time.
    if Im not mistaken one of the students of Imaam AbuHanifa RAHMA agreed with Imaam Shafi' RA with regards to the time for asr.


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    Jazak Allah for replying but i was looking for a scholar to answer.


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    I asked mufti husain (sf ameer) the same question about myself as im also living here. He said that since you are living here you can pray Asr in misl e awwal. Being a hanafi, The only thing that needs to be done is change your aiteqaad (beleif) that Asr is allowed in misl e awwal (according to sahibain).

    So according to Mufti Husain sahib damatbarakatuhum, you should pray Asr with jamat in saudi arabia without worrying tht it wont be allowed.



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    that was really helpful.


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    Default Re: Hanafi Asr Prayer in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by hamza_imran View Post


    How should a hanafi pray Asr prayer in Saudi Arabia (apart from masjid haram and masjid e nabwi). If someone is working and living there then what should he do regularly, pray in masjid with jamah or pray alone at home.

    I saw this fatwa just today, its for a similar situation. This might help


    Question


    I am a hanafee imam in cape town which is 95% shaafee. I wolud like to know will it be permissible for me to perform the salaah of asr in the awal waqt as imam.the reason i ask the question is because at the moment my asr is later than the awal waqt and alot of mussalees come in andperform their salaah and leave. I would also like to know that some hanafee brothers read their asr salaah in awal waqt behind an imam and later on they repeat their asr salaah, is this necessary.

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    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

    We make dua that you are in the best of health and Imaan. Regarding your query, there are two views in the Hanafi Fiqh regarding the ending of Zuhr time and commencing of Asr Salah.

    Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) is of the view that it is when the shadow of any item reaches twice its size excluding the size of the shadow during midday. This is the accepted and Mufta bihi (on which fatwa is on) view.
    The two students of Imam Abu Hanifa (ra), Imam Abu Yusuf (ra) and Imam Muhammad (ra), as well as Imam Shaf’ee (ra), Imam Malik (ra), and Imam Ahmed (ra) are of the view that it is when the shadow of any item reaches its size excluding the size of the shadow during midday. Many Jurists have given fatwa on this view as well.

    Dar al-Mukhtar with Rad al-Muhtar (1:359) H.M. Saeed Company

    ( ووقت الظهر من زواله ) أي ميل ذكاء عن كبد السماء ( إلى بلوغ الظل مثليه ) وعنه مثله ، وهو قولهما وزفر والأئمة الثلاثة . قال الإمام الطحاوي : وبه نأخذ . وفي غرر الأذكار : وهو المأخوذ به . وفي البرهان : وهو الأظهر . لبيان جبريل . وهو نص في الباب . وفي الفيض : وعليه عمل الناس اليوم وبه يفتى...قال ابن عابدين وقد قال في البحر : لا يعدل عن قول الإمام إلى قولهما أو قول أحدهما إلا لضرورة من ضعف دليل أو تعامل ، بخلافه كالمزارعة وإن صرح المشايخ بأن الفتوى على قولهما كما هنا . ( قوله : وعليه عمل الناس اليوم ) أي في كثير من البلاد ، والأحسن ما في السراج عن شيخ الإسلام أن الاحتياط أن لا يؤخر الظهر إلى المثل ، وأن لا يصلي العصر حتى يبلغ المثلين ليكون مؤديا للصلاتين في وقتهما

    If one is living in a community that is for example predominately Shafees, there is a leeway to perform Asr Salah after al-Mithl al-Awwal. It may no be prudent to insist on performing Asr Salah after al-Mithl al-Thaani if it will break the congregation and cause disunity. Efforts should be to unite the congregation and have a bigger Jamaat.

    Fatawa Mehmoodia (16:317) Maktaba Mehmoodia

    And Allah knows best

    Wassalam

    Ml. Ehzaz Ajmeri,
    Student Darul Iftaa

    Checked and Approved by:

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

    Role of Imam Nawawi in Shafi'i Madhab: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...Usool-and-Fiqh


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