America's military technology development problems

[Auzer]

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pakistan has nukes but what have they achieved with that

Deterred ten times bigger Hindu Civilization from physically interfering into Islamic world from the East ..... India never invaded Pakistan after nuclear explosions...

Today , Pakistani Strategic Missile Forces cover ALL of India ...and with 700,000 strong! soliders standing on the Indian borders..Not to mention thousands of Tanks , hundreds of Air crafts , and tens of naval ships and sub-marines are there ...ready to deter any Indian Aggression into 'lost Hindu areas' (lost to Islamic civilization) ...

Mission Accomplished.

Pakistani nukes achieved everything they were created for....

What are other Muslim nations doing? Specially rich Arabs ? NOTHING! Arabs only donate their money to the United States and get expensive 'toys' from there..Only hope for the Islamic World are countries like Turkey , Iran , Egypt , Indonesia , Malaysia , Pakistan etc ...

Muslims MUST become economically independent of the West .....

Good modern Islamic education (not cramming of Qur'an like in Madrassas) , progressive social education , focus on Science and Technology, and build up of economy should be Muslims' FIRST priority in today's age....

[AbuFatimah]

Wud have fully agreed with your post if it wasn't for the usual Arab bashing. Saudi are doing just as good az any other Muslim nation. I like your pragmatic approach but it's ruined by your sectarian\racist attitude towards saudi. They have plenty to offer the Muslim world in conjunction with the other nations u mentioned inshallah so don't divide the ummah, this is why we have problems. We need political unity inshallah and racism is the biggest obstacle to that

As for drones, they are militarily no match for manned fighter jets. They are only strong against ak47. Inshallah when Islam is a strong state again with a proper army, things will change inshallah.

I wish people wud stop bashing Saudi and Arabs, we're so fragmented and need full cooperation between Muslim nations inshallah if we are to become a powerful nation

[Taliban1]

Deterred ten times bigger Hindu Civilization from physically interfering into Islamic world from the East ..... India never invaded Pakistan after nuclear explosions...

Today , Pakistani Strategic Missile Forces cover ALL of India ...and with 700,000 strong! soliders standing on the Indian borders..Not to mention thousands of Tanks , hundreds of Air crafts , and tens of naval ships and sub-marines are there ...ready to deter any Indian Aggression into 'lost Hindu areas' (lost to Islamic civilization) ...

Mission Accomplished.

Pakistani nukes achieved everything they were created for....

What are other Muslim nations doing? Specially rich Arabs ? NOTHING! Arabs only donate their money to the United States and get expensive 'toys' from there..Only hope for the Islamic World are countries like Turkey , Iran , Egypt , Indonesia , Malaysia , Pakistan etc ...

Muslims MUST become economically independent of the West .....

Good modern Islamic education (not cramming of Qur'an like in Madrassas) , progressive social education , focus on Science and Technology, and build up of economy should be Muslims' FIRST priority in today's age....

And yet..... 7 lone 'terrorists' enter your naval base and destroy aircrafts worth millions!

Does india even need to attack pakistan? We already have indian films playing in pakistani cinemas. We already have indian culture in our homes. They have attacked us through tv. We have lost the cultural war. kids in pakistan know what holi is, what mangal sutra is, what rakhi is... They kniw shahrukh khan, salman khan.. but ask any kid if they know who Umar is? Who is Abu bakr? They wont have an answer!


I think if india does attack, the situation will get better. Atleast the sectarian killins will stop and people will die for a cause.

As for abufatimah getting angry on arabs...... Saudis are doing alot... BUT for themselves, not for the UMMAH.

In our whole Islamic history, muslims have never been technologically superior to kuffar and this will never happen again.

The reason is simple, we dont fight on the basis on material superiority and this is where the truth of Islam is. from badr to afghanistan, we have always been less in numbers and technology.

We need to work on our imaan more than on technology.

Yes Allah has ordered us to gain strength in quran But He has also ordered us to enter Islam completely.

Whats the use of going into space when you dont even recognizr your creator?

Whats the use of nuclear bombs when you cant even implement Allah's law in your land?

No use....

And when khilafat comes again inshaAllah in a few years, it will not be because of technological superiority.. It will be because of Iman.

May Allah give us all complete hidayat.

[Abu Zakir]

Recently Iran brought down a US drone flying in its air space. Brought down meaning taken control remotely and landed. This means Iran may have hacked into American military hardware, it has been suggested on the Internet that China produces the micro chips for American computer hardware including military hardware...and they have back doors built in to the chips. China may have given the secret code to Iran. If true American military hardware is compromised and China is 'a super power'. America may have invaded Afghanistan to try and contain China.

[mh16388]

Deterred ten times bigger Hindu Civilization from physically interfering into Islamic world from the East ..... India never invaded Pakistan after nuclear explosions...

Today , Pakistani Strategic Missile Forces cover ALL of India ...and with 700,000 strong! soliders standing on the Indian borders..Not to mention thousands of Tanks , hundreds of Air crafts , and tens of naval ships and sub-marines are there ...ready to deter any Indian Aggression into 'lost Hindu areas' (lost to Islamic civilization) ...

Mission Accomplished.

Pakistani nukes achieved everything they were created for....

What are other Muslim nations doing? Specially rich Arabs ? NOTHING! Arabs only donate their money to the United States and get expensive 'toys' from there..Only hope for the Islamic World are countries like Turkey , Iran , Egypt , Indonesia , Malaysia , Pakistan etc ...

Muslims MUST become economically independent of the West .....

Good modern Islamic education (not cramming of Qur'an like in Madrassas) , progressive social education , focus on Science and Technology, and build up of economy should be Muslims' FIRST priority in today's age....

seems you have been reading a lot of pakistan studies text books.

[Auzer]

The likes Auzer what I consider enemy within. They have no problem criticing institute set up to safeguard Islamic sciences.
this is how the quranist and other batil group came into existance. I rather have Jewish friend then likes of Auzer to advice me on anything. Lawrnece of Arabia charaton are running muck.

Hows that? How am I the enemy within when I'm pushing Muslims for better future and criticizing their wrong-doings?

And yet..... 7 lone 'terrorists' enter your naval base and destroy aircrafts worth millions!

Mehran Naval Base was located INSIDE population centers.... NO military base should be located even near population centers , let alone IN mega cities like Karachi....

Plus : In wars , things happen...no problem ....

Does india even need to attack pakistan? We already have indian films playing in pakistani cinemas. We already have indian culture in our homes. They have attacked us through tv. We have lost the cultural war. kids in pakistan know what holi is, what mangal sutra is, what rakhi is... They kniw shahrukh khan, salman khan.. but ask any kid if they know who Umar is? Who is Abu bakr? They wont have an answer!

No , Indian influence is inevitable because we speak same language. What about Pakistani music DOMINATING India's music industry? Haven't you seen their singers like Abhijeet literally YELLING on the T.V and asking to send these Pakistani singers back because they kill India's indigenous music industry...so these things are there.... The main problem is OUR lack of cultural power...but things are changing....Pakistani culture is way more rich than India's , Mashallah...but we don't invest in our culture...But things have change a bit now..I remember when Indian dramas were in every house...after the rise of Pakistani media....When Pakistanis invested in dramas....it all change..Today , Pakistani dramas OUTCLASS Indian dramas....today , Pakistani dramas get WAY,WAY more views than Indian dramas in Pakistan... So this is good..some people might argue "Well , Pakistani dramas are not truely depicting our culture" ..thats might be true..but still...they are 10000x closer to our culture than Indian dramas..so we are good... Our next step should be to revive our film industry , Inshallah! Films , Dramas , language , arts , music etc etc are VERY important in today's age..a nation should work on it...or else..other nations will fill up the space..which is very dangerous...

In our whole Islamic history, muslims have never been technologically superior to kuffar and this will never happen again.

And this approach has just KILLEDDDD Muslims.... Muslims WERE technologically superior to the kuffar.... How do you think Muslims were able to dominate the world? yes , because of their cultural , scientific , and military SUPERIORITY! Ottoman's military was WAY MORE sophisticated than Europe's.... Muslim Infantry used some of the most lethal tactics against enemies...Muhammad Bin Qasim , who brought Islam to Sub-continent , was an Ummayad General....His military technology was WAY superior than local Hindu tribes of Raja Dahir ... Read up on that...Not to mention , Salahdin's "Greek fire" was way more lethal than Crusaders' normal artillery fire... So technology IS the measure of superiority...it has been throughout the history...

Now , please don't talk about Prophet's war because he was a Prophet....Also , Prophet (SAW) was very genius in military tactics too...now a days , those tactics come from TECHNOLOGY itself...A general with 360 degree 'situational awareness' via network of Satellites will ALWAYS devise SUPERIOR tactics as compared to the general that doesn't enjoy this technology...that is basic military rule...

So in today's warfare...Technology is supreme and Muslims should work HARDEST to achieve technological parity , if not superiority , with their enemies...

The reason is simple, we dont fight on the basis on material superiority and this is where the truth of Islam is. from badr to afghanistan, we have always been less in numbers and technology.

Wrong.....

We need to work on our imaan more than on technology.

Work on BOTH..These are separate fields....

Yes Allah has ordered us to gain strength in quran But He has also ordered us to enter Islam completely.

He has also ordered us to stay prepared for any eventuality..and we Muslims does not follow HIS this command by not investing in education, social sciences , and science and technology...

Whats the use of going into space when you dont even recognizr your creator?

Allah commanded us to explore HIS great universe...

seems you have been reading a lot of pakistan studies text books.

Not really...