Narrow minded? But we live in the same world as you do.

[justwanttolearn]

Please don't post on controversial subjects, at least through Ramadhan.

Any more posts like the ones I deleted and this thread will be closed.

Is Cat Stevens a controversial subject? If not, I'd like to ask, how can a high profile Muslim revert release a music album under his Islamic name? I find it hard to believe he could be unaware that it's haraam.

[mh16388]

Is Cat Stevens a controversial subject? If not, I'd like to ask, how can a high profile Muslim revert release a music album under his Islamic name? I find it hard to believe he could be unaware that it's haraam.

there are many people who do not believe music to be haram. does not mean they are right. and cat stevens is not a scholar and it is the opinions of scholars that counts. it has been thoroughly discussed on this forum that music is haraam. if somebody wishes to ignore it what can we do? everyone has a freedom of will.
there are gay muslims in france who pray and everything yet...they are gay.

you can search for the thread 'music in islam' where it was thoroughly proven that music is haraam. sister sudoku is right, it is an extremely controversial topic not because the ruling is not clear but people wish to follow their whims and desires or appear tolerant etc and so they argue vociferously. hope you understand.

[al_Zayn]

Yusuf Islam going back to Music doesn't mean anything, even if he is high profile. In fact it is well known that he completed abandoned utilising musical instruments for quite a while, acting upon the fatwa that it was Haram, hence to say that he was oblivious is incorrect to begin with. however, he later "reverted" back to Musical Instruments. People try justifying many things, i once seen Sami Yusuf trying to justify it and he barely couldn't make his point, stuttering and all etc.

Wallahu A'lam

[Idil_]

Justwanttolearn,
It's best to go and research this issue extensively and do not rely only on one source. Since your question deals directly with Yusuf Islam life why dont you go and contact him or look into his statements he has made might be worth looking up.

[justwanttolearn]

Justwanttolearn,
It's best to go and research this issue extensively and do not rely only on one source. Since your question deals directly with Yusuf Islam life why dont you go and contact him or look into his statements he has made might be worth looking up.

Thanks for the tip. I have looked into the Yusif Islam thing quite extensively, and yet still don't feel I understand, hence my question, I thought I might be missing something, and figured the chances of getting a response directly from him would be slim to none.

It seems very obvious even to me that music is undeniably haraam. From what I've read, he has basically chosen to go with the opinion of one scholar because it suits him while ignoring the opinions of the vast majority of Muslim scholars.

From what little I understand, this in itself could be considered un Islamic, as another member here on a different thread recently told me that Prophet Muhammad (saws) said to stay with the majority group, which in this case is the group that says music is haraam.

Anyway, thanks again for the answers. No music for me, at least during Ramadan

[mh16388]

Thanks for the tip. I have looked into the Yusif Islam thing quite extensively, and yet still don't feel I understand, hence my question, I thought I might be missing something, and figured the chances of getting a response directly from him would be slim to none.

It seems very obvious even to me that music is undeniably haraam. From what I've read, he has basically chosen to go with the opinion of one scholar because it suits him while ignoring the opinions of the vast majority of Muslim scholars.

From what little I understand, this in itself could be considered un Islamic, as another member here on a different thread recently told me that Prophet Muhammad (saws) said to stay with the majority group, which in this case is the group that says music is haraam.

Anyway, thanks again for the answers. No music for me, at least during Ramadan

[dawaheed]

Thanks for the tip. I have looked into the Yusif Islam thing quite extensively, and yet still don't feel I understand, hence my question, I thought I might be missing something, and figured the chances of getting a response directly from him would be slim to none.

It seems very obvious even to me that music is undeniably haraam. From what I've read, he has basically chosen to go with the opinion of one scholar because it suits him while ignoring the opinions of the vast majority of Muslim scholars.

From what little I understand, this in itself could be considered un Islamic, as another member here on a different thread recently told me that Prophet Muhammad (saws) said to stay with the majority group, which in this case is the group that says music is haraam.

Anyway, thanks again for the answers. No music for me, at least during Ramadan

People in this day and age and previous ages, have been too quick to label something as "Haraam" without proper basis. Sometimes it can be good as it is precautionary, sometimes it is bad as it is culturally devastating (think back to when the "scholars" deemed the printing-press as "haraam" and sent the Islamic Empire into the dark-ages while Europe flourished).

I say go look at the evidence yourself and draw your own judgement that is proper, and try not to bias your research based on your own preference. Do not simply look at the "conclusions" giving to you, as people can be biased no matter how long their beard is and no matter how many people follow them. In the end (Judgement Day), Allah will be asking YOU why you did such and such, not these scholars. And I believe your answer being "I read the Quran" would be much better than "I followed this scholar named Joe Schmoe".

As for your last sentence of "No music for me, at least during Ramadan" -- I recommend that simply because time should not be wasted on non-important things during a fast. Instead of listening to music, go read the Quran and see if it says anything about Music being haraam -- you get your answer AND you get hasanat.

[justwanttolearn]

I say go look at the evidence yourself and draw your own judgement that is proper, and try not to bias your research based on your own preference.

This sounds like wise advice, and its what I've tried to do. As I've mentioned in another thread, I've played piano all my life, and listening to music has been a formal part of my daily routine since I was about 12 as a prescribed theraputic treatment. However, as much as I'd like to think it isn't haraam, all the evidence I can find says it is, therefore that is what I have come to believe. This is the longest I can remember going without music, and so far its been OK.

On another note, my fasting is still going relatively well. The food thing isn't an issue for me, I generally need to be reminded to eat even when I'm hungry, so this is no problem. Cigarettes and coffee are my biggest issue, though if I can quit them for Ramadan, I wont start using them again after it.

[amr123]

This sounds like wise advice, and its what I've tried to do. As I've mentioned in another thread, I've played piano all my life, and listening to music has been a formal part of my daily routine since I was about 12 as a prescribed theraputic treatment. However, as much as I'd like to think it isn't haraam, all the evidence I can find says it is, therefore that is what I have come to believe. This is the longest I can remember going without music, and so far its been OK.

On another note, my fasting is still going relatively well. The food thing isn't an issue for me, I generally need to be reminded to eat even when I'm hungry, so this is no problem. Cigarettes and coffee are my biggest issue, though if I can quit them for Ramadan, I wont start using them again after it.

Bro be careful while some of the members give 'liberal' advice. Be very cautious of them.

[dawaheed]

Bro be careful while some of the members give 'liberal' advice. Be very cautious of them.

Hilarious how -- "I say go look at the evidence yourself and draw your own judgement that is proper, and try not to bias your research based on your own preference." -- has become "liberal".

I think you don't even know what the word "liberal" means... or worst, you do understand it and prefer to use the slander "Islamists" use against it. Don't be shocked when I say "liberal" does not mean "non-religious" -- On the contrary, a liberal can be firmly on the path of taqwa -- as they are NOT mutually exclusive!

See that thread titled "What country are you from?" --- the choices would be VERY limited if it was not for some of those countries being "Liberal".