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    Quote Originally Posted by PouringRain View Post
    Quiet honestly, I am not sure which sect/ denomination I would consider closest to the truth. Unfortunately, many of the non-trinitarian groups have some really odd beliefs. The JW's have some really odd beliefs.

    Well, which denomination do you're beliefs agree with the most? I understand that you dont like labeling yourself with a sect or religion, but there must be at least one sect you can very closely or even exactly relate to, No?


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    some questions for a Jehovas Witness from missionislam.com

    http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jehovah.htm

    I love this story below...

    A Brush With Jehovah’s Witnesses
    A Memoir by Arif Kabir

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses opened the gate leading to my house and I watched them slowly walking up to my door. “Here comes”, I thought wryly as they started to knock. I sighed as I thought of my predicament; here I was, taking the day off from school because I was feeling sick and instead of being allowed to rest in peace, there were a group of people that were (by now banging) at my door. Instead of using the usual tactics of ignoring the door when a telemarketer comes by, I decided to open the door as it might turn out to be an interesting experience.

    Opening the door, I saw a mother with her sons all dressed in suits and in their Sunday best (and mind you, it was a weekday). They decided to begin their persuasion with a question, “what do you think about money?” I was impressed as I saw their latest technique; instead of trying to explain everything about their religion in a comprehensive matter, they were rather approaching me from one subject and going into detail about that. I quickly replied, “Money is a temporary pleasure that doesn’t truly bring happiness. [Surah Kahf - "Wealth and sons are allurements of the life of this world: But the things that endure, good deeds, are best in the sight of thy Lord, as rewards, and best as (the foundation for) hopes."] It should just be used as a means and not as an ends.” The lady’s expression quickly became flabbergasted as it became apparent that she wasn’t expecting this answer. She stuttered, “Well, that’s rather deep from a young man!”

    I merely shrugged my shoulders and said, “These are not my own words but they’re rather words that are mentioned in my own holy book, the Quran.” She started to open her mouth in retort, but thought better of it and quickly changed direction by thrusting into my hands two think brochures with images of gold and money emblazoned on the front. She began her tirade of telling me that money is the root of all evils and started quoting from various passages in her bible. Throughout it all, I listened to her politely, smiling the whole time. When I finally started to tire as I was feeling sick, I asked her sweetly, “Would you please like to come in? We can discuss each others’ books and I can show you my own book and what we believe.”

    The lady looked at me with a frown; clearly, this was not at all going how she expected. The kids around her were looking at me with curious expressions as I opened my door and gestured for them to come in. The mother quickly put a protective arm around her children and told them to stay back. She looked at me and said, “Maybe another time. I might come back later” as she briskly led her children away. I waved at the kids, said, “Come back anytime”, and as they went to the next household, quickly closed the door and shot back to the comfort of my couch, grinning broadly. Life was good…
    worth a look...

    A Jehovas Witness Convert to Islam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISZc...eature=related

    A Jehovas Witness Pastor who has become Muslim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCxoFY6AHU&feature=plcp

    Another Jehovas Witness Convert to Islam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYvP9...eature=related

    Yet another Jehovas Witness Convert to Islam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xvnyg7SK38

    an earlier discussion...

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...itnesses/page3
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    theyre not mushriks? so theyre muwahhids? but theyre kaafir? i have a question please i had a trouble explaining to my teacher, lets say a person believes in one God has heard of Islam but doesnt follow any religion, is he kaafir and destined for hell?


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.s. View Post
    Well, which denomination do you're beliefs agree with the most? I understand that you dont like labeling yourself with a sect or religion, but there must be at least one sect you can very closely or even exactly relate to, No?
    I have not found one Christian denomination or sect that I can closely relate to in my beliefs.

    The church I attend is trinitarian, and I disagree with many things, but I have a lot of respect for the pastor of that church.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PouringRain View Post
    I have not found one Christian denomination or sect that I can closely relate to in my beliefs.
    Your personal christian beliefs must be way out of the main stream.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlGhuraba View Post
    theyre not mushriks? so theyre muwahhids? but theyre kaafir? i have a question please i had a trouble explaining to my teacher, lets say a person believes in one God has heard of Islam but doesnt follow any religion, is he kaafir and destined for hell?


    If he rejects "Muhammadun rasoolullah" then he is a kaafir. Our kalimah is Laa ilaaha illa Allaahu Muhammadun rasoolullah so by accepting the first half but rejecting the second half is kufr. If someone had not heard of this kalimah and hadn't heard of Islam, then the first part would suffice. But if a person rejects and refuses to accept the second part of the kalimah, then he is a kaafir.
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    Default Re: Best Way to Talk with a Jehova Witness?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlGhuraba View Post
    theyre not mushriks? so theyre muwahhids? but theyre kaafir? i have a question please i had a trouble explaining to my teacher, lets say a person believes in one God has heard of Islam but doesnt follow any religion, is he kaafir and destined for hell?
    Yes, he would be a kaafir. Because rejects the prophethood of Muhammad and the Qur'an.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Revert2001 View Post
    Your personal christian beliefs must be way out of the main stream.
    Bro, she's not really a Christian. She doesn't like labels. She accepts all three abrahamic religions.

    Visit her blog, its really good.


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    Default Re: Best Way to Talk with a Jehova Witness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQibPBv7cQ8



    pick up some books or make notes from brother abdul hakim murad
    It's a one minute video in which a joke is told? Which lectures are you referring to?
    And if he were to ask for a gentle lady in marriage, he would be refused, and when he leaves the world it does not miss him, and if he goes out, his going out is not noticed, and if he falls sick, he is not attended to, and if he dies, he is not accompanied to his grave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlGhuraba View Post
    theyre not mushriks? so theyre muwahhids?
    I have heard conflicting things, but if they believe in the oneness of God and all that it entails - associating nothing with Him - and they avoid other types of shirk then muwahhid would not be a bad term for them.

    I'm not totally sure that they do avoid everything that we would call shirk, but they are certainly closer to real monotheism than most mainstream Christians - that said many mainstream Christians reject trinitarianism even though their churches teach it - I once heard Abdul Hakim Murad quote figures that suggested about 30% of British Anglicans believe Jesus (as) was a Prophet and reject the trinitarian shirk even though it is the doctrine of their church.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlGhuraba View Post
    but theyre kaafir?
    yes because they don't accept Prophet Muhammad (saws) - to reject any one of the real Prophets (as) makes someone a kaffir - to reject Prophet Muhammad (saws) is even worse because he is the Prophet of this age and to reject him is to reject the Divine Law for this age.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlGhuraba View Post
    i have a question please i had a trouble explaining to my teacher, lets say a person believes in one God has heard of Islam but doesnt follow any religion, is he kaafir and destined for hell?
    if he actually knows about Islam (its beliefs) and rejects it he is by definition a kaffir, as for his being destined for hell or not - only Allah knows that, but it sounds likely.


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