What is Salifism?

[الشيخ المخفي]

It's funny how the guy used a narration from Tareekh Baghdad to show that Imam Abu Haneefa used taqiyyah when we know that there are many fabrications in that book. In fact, the Ahle Hadees of Pakistan use that book to blast Imam Abu Haneefa !

You have to show that the narration you're quoting is accurate (it isn't). Actually, never mind, since the Shi'a ayatollaats cannot even authenticate their "hadeeth" properly, what hope do you have?

Mr. Wahab, with due respect i have no intention of putting Imam e Azam under a bad light. Im not interested about the authenticity of this book. Imam e Azam is a lover of the ahle bayt mutahireen and has supported Imam Zayd shaheed. I have all the respect in the world for him. This book has been extensively quoted by the wahabist to prove the followers of the biggest sunni school as wrong, ultimately an attack on ahle sunnah as a whole but the irony is that the wahabist claim to belong to the same sect they wish to discredit.

[abdulwahhab]

Mr. Wahab, with due respect i have no intention of putting Imam e Azam under a bad light. Im not interested about the authenticity of this book. Imam e Azam is a lover of the ahle bayt mutahireen and has supported Imam Zayd shaheed. I have all the respect in the world for him. This book has been extensively quoted by the wahabist to prove the followers of the biggest sunni school as wrong, ultimately an attack on ahle sunnah as a whole but the irony is that the wahabist claim to belong to the same sect they wish to discredit.

You used a false account from that book to justify taqiyyah when taqiyyah is not allowed except when someone's life is in real danger. The Wahhabis in Pakistan hate the Ahlus Sunnah and they don't care about authenticity as far as attacking the Ahlus Sunnah is concerned so you using the book that they extensively source shows your hatred for the Ahlus Sunnah as well.

[الشيخ المخفي]

You used a false account from that book to justify taqiyyah when taqiyyah is not allowed except when someone's life is in real danger. The Wahhabis in Pakistan hate the Ahlus Sunnah and they don't care about authenticity as far as attacking the Ahlus Sunnah is concerned so you using the book that they extensively source shows your hatred for the Ahlus Sunnah as well.

my friend you keep evading and attacking on the wrong targets. Tashayyu' as a movement has been around for more 1000 years, neither ahle sunnah nor ahle tashayyu' were able to completely vanquish the other. It shall remain so until the appearance of Imam Mahdi (as). We will let him decide on this issue. Wahabism is a dangerous dagger on the very heart of ahle sunnah, the way it is growing and poisoning people's minds is certainly mind boggling, a cause for concern. I hope you will agree with me on that. They are hijacking ahle sunnah! if you truly love ahle sunnah you will realise this! shias are merely 10% how can they harm 90%? but wahabist have big big ambitions. This all i can say on this thread. wasalam!

[Aram]

why would a shia care about ahlus sunnah and what goes on between them...i can only think of divide and conquer being their interest

some wahabbis may curse imam Abu Hanifah RA, but the shias curse our sahaba RA and our mothers RA....the sahabah RA are higher in status than the mujtahideen imams therefore shias are our bigger enemies

your tactics are not about to work here...jog on

[الشيخ المخفي]

why would a shia care about ahlus sunnah and what goes on between them...i can only think of divide and conquer being their interest

some wahabbis may curse imam Abu Hanifah RA, but the shias curse our sahaba RA and our mothers RA....the sahabah RA are higher in status than the mujtahideen imams therefore shias are our bigger enemies

your tactics are not about to work here...jog on

Interesting thought. well done, stay with those that curse and insult imam abu hanifa (ra) to the extent of kufr. I have no business with the sister of the wahabist. I dont think any right thinking sunni will say what you said. Imam Abu Hanifa gave u fiqh, and yet you tolerate him being ridiculed. Ajeeb Bht ajeeb. Teri soch or fikr ko salam! You are a victim of mass deception!

[Aram]

Interesting thought. well done, stay with those that curse and insult imam abu hanifa (ra) to the extent of kufr. I have no business with the sister of the wahabist. I dont think any right thinking sunni will say what you said. Imam Abu Hanifa gave u fiqh, and yet you tolerate him being ridiculed. Ajeeb Bht ajeeb. Teri soch or fikr ko salam! You are a victim of mass deception!

wahabbis who curse imam Abu Hanifah RA are misguided but shias who curse the sahabah RA are kaafir so how can you tell us who are enemies are?
i know what your trying to do here with your taqiyyah..turn our attention away from the filthy shias so that we focus our hatred to the wahabbis

im sorry but you have failed miserably

[abdulwahhab]

Most Wahhabis do not curse nor do they condone cursing Imam Abu Hanifah . In fact, the minority of Ahle Hadees that do are ridiculed and rejected by the Wahhabis themselves. You'll be hard-pressed to find any Saudi Wahhabi scholar cursing Imam Abu Hanifa nor will you find him allowing such things. In fact, you'll find them cursing those that curse the imam!

On the other hand, you Shi'a love to curse the Sahaba and the pure wives رضي الله عنهن and not only do you allow it, you recommend it. Your kufr as a group is clear. The kufr of the Wahhabis isn't since they don't have a united belief on cursing Imam Abu Hanifa and a minority are the ones that curse.

It is like me saying that the Shi'a believe 'Ali to be god, when a small number (the 'Alawis) do believe this and majority do not.

[الشيخ المخفي]

On the other hand, you Shi'a love to curse the Sahaba and the pure wives رضي الله عنهن and not only do you allow it, you recommend it. Your kufr as a group is clear. The kufr of the Wahhabis isn't since they don't have a united belief on cursing Imam Abu Hanifa and a minority are the ones that curse.

Yet again another common nasibi accusation, well i dont think i like to repeat this : Ahle Tashayyu' do not curse ALL the Sahaba Kiram & Azwaj e Rasul Kareem (ALLAHuma sale ala Muhammad wa Ale Muhammad!). Ahle Tashayyu' dissociate from those who hate or abuse the Ahle Bayt Mutahireen (as), cursing is discouraged. Some of the Sahaba Kiram revered & honored by ahle Tashayyu' are Hazrat Salman (ra), Hazrat Miqdad (ra) & Hazrat Ammar (ra) Almost all the wives of the Prophet (saw) are revered in particular Hazrat Khadija (ra), Hazrat Umme Salama (ra) & Hazrat Mariam (ra).

The other thing you all should know is that, if you do not tolerate a Sahabi (ra) being cursed then how could you tolerate Moula Ali (as) to be cursed? fought against? do you support anyone declaring war against a sahabi?

[SASLAMS]

Do you do that in your salat?

if you dont in salah why cant you out of salah, because you hate the best friend of Rasulullah SAWS. & i dont know to hate a mans best friend or to make an enemy of him is to hate him too.

[Aram]

On the other hand, you Shi'a love to curse the Sahaba and the pure wives رضي الله عنهن and not only do you allow it, you recommend it. Your kufr as a group is clear. The kufr of the Wahhabis isn't since they don't have a united belief on cursing Imam Abu Hanifa and a minority are the ones that curse.

Yet again another common nasibi accusation, well i dont think i like to repeat this : Ahle Tashayyu' do not curse ALL the Sahaba Kiram & Azwaj e Rasul Kareem (ALLAHuma sale ala Muhammad wa Ale Muhammad!). Ahle Tashayyu' dissociate from those who hate or abuse the Ahle Bayt Mutahireen (as), cursing is discouraged. Some of the Sahaba Kiram revered & honored by ahle Tashayyu' are Hazrat Salman (ra), Hazrat Miqdad (ra) & Hazrat Ammar (ra) Almost all the wives of the Prophet (saw) are revered in particular Hazrat Khadija (ra), Hazrat Umme Salama (ra) & Hazrat Mariam (ra).

The other thing you all should know is that, if you do not tolerate a Sahabi (ra) being cursed then how could you tolerate Moula Ali (as) to be cursed? fought against? do you support anyone declaring war against a sahabi?

Alhamdlillah atleast you have droppd the taqiyyah act

as for Hadhrat Ali karamAllahu wajhahu RA, there is nobody that insults him more than the shias themselves by making out he was some kind of coward as they are....na'audhubillah and he sat by and watched others abuse his family and did nothing....that is not Our Ali RA, you may have such a low opinion of him but we know he would have taken off the heads of those who hurt his family