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    Default Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=t2UvVF1PIMQ

    Partly in Urdu and English 3.6 minutes long

    Vadillio wants Muslims to use Gold and Silver Dinar and Dirhams which are Islamic currencies and free from Riba.


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    this may sound stupid but where would the government get enough gold and silver to make and distribute dinar and dirhams. in the current system, its just physical paper and infinite digits on the computer


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badrud_Duja View Post
    this may sound stupid but where would the government get enough gold and silver to make and distribute dinar and dirhams. in the current system, its just physical paper and infinite digits on the computer

    The process needs individuals not governments converting their paper money into Gold and Silver..if more and more people do it the paper and digital money will become worthless over time.


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    ABu zakir, I have been with umer from the last three days, met with ulema in karachi along with umer and are working on implementing this, you can join our team if you like.
    Hub e Ahmed Azal hi say Seenay may hay---- May yahan ho mera dil madinay main hay


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by bihari View Post
    ABu zakir, I have been with umer from the last three days, met with ulema in karachi along with umer and are working on implementing this, you can join our team if you like.
    I am in the UK. Alhamdulilah my duas are with you.


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    You should really be careful about swallowing the whole Murabitun party line. Don't assume any one group has all the answers to the questions. A great shaykh once said "Every group has some good; take it and gather it all in within yourself." The hatred of Riba that the Murabitun have is good, their methods are a bit odd, and their Shaykh is not qualified at all, so be careful and take from them the good and do not become like the same as the rest of them are...

    Just some brotherly naseehah.


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    We live in a world in which everyone gets criticised for some reason or another, even the Prophets and Awlia have people who criticise them...this is one of the proofs of their claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeed View Post


    You should really be careful about swallowing the whole Murabitun party line. Don't assume any one group has all the answers to the questions. A great shaykh once said "Every group has some good; take it and gather it all in within yourself." The hatred of Riba that the Murabitun have is good, their methods are a bit odd, and their Shaykh is not qualified at all, so be careful and take from them the good and do not become like the same as the rest of them are...

    Just some brotherly naseehah.


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    Agreed brother, that is why we took him to meet with scholars of jamia tur rasheed, binori town and Darul uloom karachi. We will follow instructions of these scholars and will only take suggestions from these brothers inshallah.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeed View Post


    You should really be careful about swallowing the whole Murabitun party line. Don't assume any one group has all the answers to the questions. A great shaykh once said "Every group has some good; take it and gather it all in within yourself." The hatred of Riba that the Murabitun have is good, their methods are a bit odd, and their Shaykh is not qualified at all, so be careful and take from them the good and do not become like the same as the rest of them are...

    Just some brotherly naseehah.
    Hub e Ahmed Azal hi say Seenay may hay---- May yahan ho mera dil madinay main hay


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    Default Re: Umar Ibrahim Vadillo special address in Pakistan

    Salaam.

    One of the brothers asked why not use paper/digits instead of gold/silver. To be brief, paper money is printed easily, and therefore loses its value quickly with inflation. Also, since paper currency, such as the U.S. dollar, does not have its value backed in precious materials like gold, the government simply makes up a value and says that its value is backed up by law (in other words, it is worth something because we told you so :P ). Also paper money is damaged easily. Gold and silver on the other hand, can't be printed at will (so they retain their value), can't be damaged easily (they don't even rust), and don't require some law to back up their value (you'd have to be insane to think gold has no monetary value). Plus, using gold/silver is a Sunnah, and the Islamic dinar was determined to be the currency of the Muslims by the second Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, radiullah anhu.

    Hope this answers your question.

    And Allah knows best.
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