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    Default The word "Islamist"!

    Assalam alaikum,

    Why does media promotes the new derivatives of the word "Islam" in a derogatory sense, like the word "Islamist"! How come these words find their way into main stream international media? Is their no international law against the use of defaming words used by media? It feels really bad when you see words that associate the religion itself to a negative feeling. Its also very sorry to see muslims also adopting these words without thinking over it.


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    You made the first step: being aware and cognizant of the deviancy!

    Inventing words and propagating their usage serves to accomplish several objectives: 1)maintain 'leadership' in political thought about a topic; 2) gain advantage over adversaries and enemies; 3) manipulate public opinion against adversaries.

    "Islamism" is typical of Western enemies of Allah- when they were busy invading Muslim lands during the colonial era, they used terms like "Mohammadans". During the Crusades, it was "Saracens" and "Moors".

    After the Spanish Christians regained control over SPain, they eventually spread their empire to the South Pacific wherein they discovered Muslims (of today's Phillipines) who they called "Moros" as a derogatory derivative of Moors.

    As humans, we struggle to understand things in order to gain power over it, or utilize it. When didn't understand hadeed/iron at first. Eventually we learned to identify it as iron ore, then utilize it in manufacturing weaponry and armor- like chain mail taught by Allah (SWT)- then we learned to manipulate it completely from the atomic level, forming new metals.

    As deviant humans, one can read about all the prophets and how the leaders of the enemies of Allah tried to frame the prophets in some category to control people's thinking: such and such is from a poor family, or such and such is a sorcerer, or such and such is crazy.

    Today, the enemies have largely given up totally defeating the Aqidah of Islam. However, they aspire to advocate secularism such that politics and religion are seperated so that Islam has nothing to do with life and politics. Hence "islamism" refers to Islam addressing politics, while "Islam" according to the enemies of Allah, means a private religion which may occur in private but should not occur in public affairs.
    Abu Shamah had narrated, via the Sanad of Abi Ziyad bin Hudayr, saying:


    "Omar said to me: Do you know what destroys Islam? I said, No! He said: A mistake made by a scholar, the argument of a hypocrite in writing and the ruling of leaders who wish for people to stray".


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    By Islamism they mean political. They want to associate a non political quiet Islam as the real, good Islam...which can live alongside the dominant Secularism. Unfortunately "Islamists" are using Un-Islamic modern ideologies so they are not representative of Islam. Islam the Deen is Muamalat (an Arabic word meaning transactions, trade and commerce), Muslims need to bring Islamic Muamalat into reality...this way we no longer are associated with either "Islamists" or the quiet "secularised" Muslims who have reduced the deen to Amaal only. If we all work towards the five branches of Deen we would be Muslims-:

    (TAKEN FROM)
    MUSLIM WAY OF LIFE
    The Five Branches of Deen
    By Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi rahmatullahi alayh
    http://www.myiwc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4231


    THE FIVE BRANCHES OF THE SHARIAT (ISLAMIC LEGAL CODE)

    The Shariat (Islamic legal Code) consists of five branches or parts: Aqqa-id, A'maal, Muamalaat, Akhlaaq, Husn-e-Muasharat (Social Etiquette).

    1- AQQA-ID (Beliefs), e.g., beliefs in the Oneness of Allah (s.w.t- The Exalted) and the Risaalat (Prophet hood) of The Holy Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

    2- A'MAAL (righteous deeds), e.g., Salaat (Daily Prayers), Saum.

    3- MUAMALAAT (Transactions, Contracts), e.g., trade and commerce.

    4- AKHLAAQ (Moral character), e.g., humility, generosity, etc.

    5- HUSN-E-MUASHARAT (SOCIAL ETIQUETTE) (Beautiful social conduct, i.e., good relationship with people, e.g., abstention from acts which cause others inconvenience, such as disturbing a person in his sleep.


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    ...this way we no longer are associated with either "Islamists" or the quiet "secularised" Muslims.....
    JazakAllah brother, but the question of association with the word "Islamist" arise after we accept such a word. We should not accept it in the first place.


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    JazakAllah brother


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Of Soul View Post
    JazakAllah brother, but the question of association with the word "Islamist" arise after we accept such a word. We should not accept it in the first place.
    We do not have to accept it if we do not want to...but how are we going to label the modernist political Muslims who adopt ideologies outside of Islam? Should we just call them Muslims even if they are distorting the deen and its teachings?


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    We do not have to accept it if we do not want to...but how are we going to label the modernist political Muslims who adopt ideologies outside of Islam? Should we just call them Muslims even if they are distorting the deen and its teachings?
    Brother the labelling of beign a muslim or not rests in the hand of Allah Subhana wa Ta'ala. But it is in our hand not to let such a beautiful word(Islam) distorted in meaning (Islamist) and used for such a bad lot.
    Last edited by Peace Of Soul; 18-07-2012 at 07:12 AM.


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Of Soul View Post
    Brother the labelling of beign a muslim or not rests in the hand of Allah Subhana wa Ta'ala. But it is in our hand not to let such a beautiful word(Islam) distorted(Islamist) and used for such a bad lot.
    I agree with you sister, language has been hijacked in subtle ways to distort peaceful phraseology, into association with something more sinister.
    These are familiar demonisation tactics, the process of otherisation, similar to the use of "cockroaches" that begin the mindset, that may lead to the genocide of a peoples
    These are right wing Islamaphobic and xenophobic vernacular, and we must recognise such, combat intellectually such and make muslims aware of such.


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    We do not have to accept it if we do not want to...but how are we going to label the modernist political Muslims who adopt ideologies outside of Islam? Should we just call them Muslims even if they are distorting the deen and its teachings?
    We should call them extremist, because they are extreme. Even in Arabic there is a translation for "extremist"
    Telling the truth is the best route to sincere lingua franca. In sha Allah.


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    Default Re: The word "Islamist"!

    Can we do something about this?

    Because even 'respectable' organisations like BBC use it regularly. You never hear Christianists or Jewists.

    Words like coloured and the N word used to be frequently used before but now deemed unacceptable, probably because of campaigns/pressure. Surely we can do something similar to stop the demonisation of our religions name.


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