but I thought no one really argued the obligation of having the beard. The only difference from madhab side was with regards to Shafi'i madhab and that too from latter shawafi and not the earlier. If that is the case, then what does your above statement have to do with this thread here.
and for you, I will be happy as long as you follow your madhab inshAllah. Let the others be to theirs : )
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It is reported from Abu Umamah from the Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alayhi WaSallam) that he said:
اتَّقُوا فِرَاسَةَ الْمُؤْمِنِ ، فَإِنَّهُ يَنْظُرُ بِنُورِ اللَّهِ
" Fear the Insight of the Believer, for verily he sees with the Light of God"
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An answer by Mufti Desai:
Q. A Shaafi’ man married a Hanafi woman. Does the woman have to adopt the husband’s Math-hab?
A. The husband and wife should follow their own respective Math-habs. They should not compromise merely to please one another. For example, if the wife is Hanafi and the husband Shaafi’, then he should exercise caution and not compel her to cook such food which is haraam in the Hanafi Math-hab, e.g. lobsters, shrimps, etc. He should not compel her to perform Salaat in the Shaafi’ time when it is not Hanafi time. Similarly, she should not do anything which will break his wudhu in terms of the Shaafi’ Math-hab.
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"The servant who is unaware of his contemptibility and regards himself as honourable, is truly contemptible"
(Ikmalush Shiyam - commentary of the Hikam of Ibn Ata'illah al-Iskandari)
If Allah had not concealed my faults, and my true self was displayed, people would not even spit on me.
Yes I did, but this was because I was not aware of the fact that they were salafi sites (I didn't even know IslamQA was salafi). But the real point im trying to make is that there are many people (like you) who are negative towards the salafis. As if you are the only one on the Haq and everyone else is on the Batil.
You were not aware makes a bigger mockery of yourself, that you don't verify what you post or copy and paste.
Like i said, if a person quotes from a Shi'ah website he will get accused of Shi'ism, similarly if a person gets quotes Salafi websites he will get accused of Salafism (especially if he goes under the banner of "Hanafi").
I got NO qualms with Salafis even on this forum, if a Salafi (a known Salafi from here) were to have posted that fatwa from Islamqa, i wouldn't have made a fuss and i would have posted what his own Salafis had to say and khalas.
In fact i have had discussions with Salafi / Hanbali brothers on here, so can you point to me where i was negative to them? where i thought i was upon Haq. Please don't make silly accusations if you are oblivious to my style of discussion with people.
The only reason why i carried on in that thread with you was because you made up Usools as you went, the hadith of Halal and Haram ring a bell? i don't think no Scholar (even Salafis) used that hadith to stay away from weak hadith.
Yes i refute the MAD-Khali type of Salafism and even Salafis themselves refute this type, and it seems Neo Usools are being made in the Hanafi Madhhab apparently by their followers, a type of MAD-Khalism that i would refute also.
Ma'a al-Salaamah.
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It is reported from Abu Umamah from the Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alayhi WaSallam) that he said:
اتَّقُوا فِرَاسَةَ الْمُؤْمِنِ ، فَإِنَّهُ يَنْظُرُ بِنُورِ اللَّهِ
" Fear the Insight of the Believer, for verily he sees with the Light of God"
رقم الحديث: 3362
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Like I said, I was not aware the IslamQA was a salafi website, I always though it was sunni.
If my banner says "Hanafi" then Im Hanafi, simple as that. You just went on to label me a salafi.
I can't help but think that you had the "Im right and everyone else is wrong" attitude in that thread (plus the additional thread you made when the first one closed).
Made up usools? All I said was that both opinions are valid to hold, and I gave you proof (from a deobandi scholar) which you rejected because I didn't give a link (even though I posted it twice)
Never heard of madkhali, could care less.
Anyway, the last ten days of Ramadan are starting, and these arguments are a waste of time. This'll probably be my last post.
I'll see you after Ramadan akhi.
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Again i am saying that is your fault. If i was to quote a Shi'iah website for my advancement would i not be called one?
I went on to label you Salafi for a reason, that reason was you quoted Salafi websites!If my banner says "Hanafi" then Im Hanafi, simple as that. You just went on to label me a salafi.
I seen how you kept hopping around! You quoted salafi websites, you said evil Bid'ah, you wanted to warn people against it, it was clear you wanted to prove a point...under the banner of Hanafi. Even those amongst the Hanafiyyah ('Ulama) who do not act upon this night do not have such ghuloo against those who act upon this night.I can't help but think that you had the "Im right and everyone else is wrong" attitude in that thread (plus the additional thread you made when the first one closed).
look please dont make yourself look like a fool, yes you made up Usools! You used the hadith that says between Halal and Haraam is doubt, so when there is doubt (implying weak hadith) we stay away from it....this is a BENT Usool which Salafis dont use to play away weak hadith, Wallahi how you used it astounded me.Made up usools? All I said was that both opinions are valid to hold, and I gave you proof (from a deobandi scholar) which you rejected because I didn't give a link (even though I posted it twice)
As for your Deobandi proof then if you were to post that first under the banner of Hanafi it would have been a different ball game, and i sensed you were rummaging through the internet trying to find anything that can you help after after a shameless endeavour. Even then i asked you have you read the several pages long Fatwa from the Muft RA which was watered down to several lines by a non-Scholar? no reply.
Then don't accuse me of being harsh against Salafis if you don't know.Never heard of madkhali, could care less.
you shouldn't have replied if you were going to say this.Anyway, the last ten days of Ramadan are starting, and these arguments are a waste of time. This'll probably be my last post.
I'll see you after Ramadan akhi.
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It is reported from Abu Umamah from the Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alayhi WaSallam) that he said:
اتَّقُوا فِرَاسَةَ الْمُؤْمِنِ ، فَإِنَّهُ يَنْظُرُ بِنُورِ اللَّهِ
" Fear the Insight of the Believer, for verily he sees with the Light of God"
رقم الحديث: 3362
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