Murdering your children

**Tisatashar** · 04-08-2012, 09:05 AM

assalamu alaykom

I have just been told that withn the mathhabbs it is not 'murder' nor punishable if a father kills his child. And not by accident. Intentional murder. Is this myth or fact? If yes, I'd like to see something scholarly on the issue.

Jazakullahu khairan

N.B. The 'claimer' agrees that ALLAH says in Qur'an "do not kill your children" but he says in sunni Islam the parents are not to be punished.

**Starting_anew** · 06-08-2012, 10:31 AM

Could we have an update on this please?
Muslims are currently being attacked in the UK on this issue on forums/blogs etc. Need some scholarly advice.

**saqfu** · 06-08-2012, 12:21 PM

brothers u need to understand that killing ur own children is a big sin. but in islam a parent who murders his child will not be punished by death. yet it is not allowed to kill ur own children in islam. it is only that the parent will not be punished. the reason for this is because children are ur own blood.

**ahmad12** · 06-08-2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Starting_anew

Could we have an update on this please?
Muslims are currently being attacked in the UK on this issue on forums/blogs etc. Need some scholarly advice.

Muslims are attacked on every issue, whether it is the fact that our women wear hijaab or our men keep beards to the laws of the sharia and more... we will never change for them,

With regards to the question, a man who kills his son is not punished by death under sharia, he has to pay blood money instead and Allah knows best. And we do not know of the punishment that awaits him in the hereafter

**NNoor** · 07-08-2012, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by ahmad12

Muslims are attacked on every issue, whether it is the fact that our women wear hijaab or our men keep beards to the laws of the sharia and more... we will never change for them,

With regards to the question, a man who kills his son is not punished by death under sharia, he has to pay blood money instead and Allah knows best. And we do not know of the punishment that awaits him in the hereafter

What is the justification for it?

**PursuitOfKnowledge** · 07-08-2012, 01:30 AM

On Page 240 (of the .PDF) of Reliance of the Traveller (a book on Shafi'i Fiqh), it is said that parents are not subject to retaliation for killing their offspring or their offspring's offspring. I do not have enough knowledge to tell you whether or not this means that parents are not to be punished or what this statement's full implications are. Hopefully, someone with more knowledge can help.

**NNoor** · 07-08-2012, 01:33 AM

I meant, what is the proof for parents not being executed?

**ahmad12** · 07-08-2012, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by NNoor

I meant, what is the proof for parents not being executed?

I think it's to do with the fact that the child is not meant to harm the parent but I am not sure

Allah knows best

**Hellokitty** · 14-08-2012, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by NNoor

I meant, what is the proof for parents not being executed?

Im wondering the same question, surely killing your own children is a bigger sin then killing any tom, john and harry. Murder of innocent children is wicked and deserves punishment InShAllah otherwise this crime will not stop. Inexcusable

**Abu Zakir** · 14-08-2012, 01:23 AM

Murder under Islamic law is not a crime against the state...blood money and retaliation can be claimed by the family of the murdered instead of killing the murderer.

If parents kill their young and unmarried children there are no closer family members other than the parents who did the murder...so it is a bit of a problem...maybe the governor decides on a punishment?