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    Every day or every Friday we hear nothing than the same old sermons.

    Nothing about what really goes on in our societies. Does anyone know why our religious leaders and Imams to be specific are so out of touch with the realities of the real world?

    There are so many social, environmental, economic and political issues that are constantly affecting us and we hoped to hear much from our learned leaders but nothing

    anyone know why?


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    Check out Imam Suhaib Webb from the Boston mosque.

    He touches on many of the social issues the ummah faces today.

    He has many videos on YouTube


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    Quote Originally Posted by mwinyi View Post
    Every day or every Friday we hear nothing than the same old sermons.

    Nothing about what really goes on in our societies. Does anyone know why our religious leaders and Imams to be specific are so out of touch with the realities of the real world?

    There are so many social, environmental, economic and political issues that are constantly affecting us and we hoped to hear much from our learned leaders but nothing

    anyone know why?

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    One thing I heard about west african ulama is that they dress like the common people, so when they join people they are not distinguished and people think they are just like them...so they are open...those who dress with the "sunnah" dress are too different from the commoners so they either avoid them or they act different in front of them.


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    I happened to sit in a couple of jummah talks in Pakistan over my trip. The mufti Saheb is courageous and bold. Tackled lots of current affairs with a fiqhi flare. It was brilliant to listen to him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    One thing I heard about west african ulama is that they dress like the common people, so when they join people they are not distinguished and people think they are just like them...so they are open...those who dress with the "sunnah" dress are too different from the commoners so they either avoid them or they act different in front of them.


    Br. that is not some positive remark. A heir of a nabi has to live by the dictates of the nabi not with the flow of the flock. He is a leader not a muqtadi (follower). The idea is to dress as sunnah and appropriate of Ulama as possible, and yet be so accessible and open to masses that the masses take on your colour and not the other way around.



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    Quote Originally Posted by abuhajira View Post


    Br. that is not some positive remark. A heir of a nabi has to live by the dictates of the nabi not with the flow of the flock. He is a leader not a muqtadi (follower). The idea is to dress as sunnah and appropriate of Ulama as possible, and yet be so accessible and open to masses that the masses take on your colour and not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revert2001 View Post
    Check out Imam Suhaib Webb from the Boston mosque.

    He touches on many of the social issues the ummah faces today.

    He has many videos on YouTube
    By the way Imam Webb follows the Maliki madhhab
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwinyi View Post
    Every day or every Friday we hear nothing than the same old sermons.

    Nothing about what really goes on in our societies. Does anyone know why our religious leaders and Imams to be specific are so out of touch with the realities of the real world?

    There are so many social, environmental, economic and political issues that are constantly affecting us and we hoped to hear much from our learned leaders but nothing

    anyone know why?
    Maybe because they think that ibaadaat, and certain types of haqooq al-ibaad are more important - and are perhaps reason as to why we are getting a collective whoopin' in social, environmental, economic, and political issues in the first place? Do you think this is a possibility?

    Just trying to answer your question, "anyone know why?".


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    Yes, most of them are out of touch. As someone who lives in the UK and knows what goes on in the schools here, I find it incredible that not only do the Imams not speak about the dangers of a secular education, but the enrol their own children in these same schools! Literally, the kids are spending 8 hours a day, five times a week, over 250 weeks a year, at these schools (not even talking about kids in colleges and uni)- you know, these same schools and teachers that put the Muslim kids in choir and Christmas plays and ask them to paint pictures of animate objects and sing hymns in assembly, give them music lessons and teach them to follow the ways of the kuffar wholeheartedly without question. And then these same Imams will complain that our youth are listening to Tupac and selling crack on the corner of the street and fail to see the link between the fact that our kids have spent the majority of the time with kuffar and the fact that they are now behaving like them?

    And then these same Imams will tell us in every khutba that the child must respect the parents (which of course, is HAQ) but they can't teach these parents how to raise the kids according to sunnah? They won't tell us how to talk to them, behave in front of them, etc and when these same parents send our kids like lamb to the slaughter (in these schools), they expect our kids to come out fine when no one in their lives helps them understand what is right and wrong?

    This is just ONE aspect of how MOST of our Imams are out of touch. Not all are out of touch and this is not the only problem we face that no one in our masaajid are prepared to speak about

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