Sun thrown in ocean?

**uali3** · 15-08-2012, 05:21 PM

sahih of Bukhari records from Sayyidna Abu Huharirah
& that the Holy Prophet said that on the Day of Resurrection the Sun
and the Moon would be thrown into the ocean.

I read the following on Maariful quran of Mufti Shafi Usmani - http://www.islamibayanaat.com/MQ/Eng...ge-676-731.pdf

It is on the commentary of surah takwir verse 1.

How can the sun be thrown in the ocean if it's bigger than the earth? is this even a hadith? apparently it's in Bukhari according to maariful quran?

**Abu Zakir** · 15-08-2012, 05:48 PM

cant open the pdf, it crashes.

Originally Posted by uali3

sahih of Bukhari records from Sayyidna Abu Huharirah
& that the Holy Prophet said that on the Day of Resurrection the Sun
and the Moon would be thrown into the ocean.

I read the following on Maariful quran of Mufti Shafi Usmani - http://www.islamibayanaat.com/MQ/Eng...ge-676-731.pdf

It is on the commentary of surah takwir verse 1.

How can the sun be thrown in the ocean if it's bigger than the earth? is this even a hadith? apparently it's in Bukhari according to maariful quran?

**mh16388** · 15-08-2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by uali3

How can the sun be thrown in the ocean if it's bigger than the earth? is this even a hadith? apparently it's in Bukhari according to maariful quran?

"It is likewise correct to say that they will be put into Hell, because the entire ocean at that time will have been turned into Hell"

p.s i do not think ocean then would mean the same thing as ocean now.

**uali3** · 15-08-2012, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Abu Zakir

cant open the pdf, it crashes.

Salamz brother, if you go on the main website, which is, http://www.islamibayanaat.com/EMQ.htm , then go on page 676 - 731, it will be under the commentary of the first verse of surah takwir. Look forward to hearing from you.

**Starting_anew** · 15-08-2012, 09:44 PM

I remember hearing the commentary to this Surah by Br. Nouman Ali Khan and i immediately remembered something.
Could a physicist/chemist please tell usthis. If i remember watching a documentary correctly. If water touches something sufficiently hot, it actually turns into a fuel. The hydrogen and oxygen seperate and then explode. By sufficiently hot, i mean VERY hot. They used this in reference to the dangers of using water to cool down a nuclear reactor in an emergency.
This is in reference to the fifth aya

**sakeranz** · 15-08-2012, 10:08 PM

CMIIW there is no bukhari hadith about such thing - sun thrown in ocean - , maybe the sheik misquote the bukhari

**faizol** · 15-08-2012, 10:42 PM

I have no knowledge of the tafsir or the hadith, but if the realm is on the Judgement Day like brother uali3 mentioned, then it would be totally different from our realm now. We all know that all human beings and jinns would be gathered there to be judged, and there'll be no mountains but flat land. So we can't really say if the ocean there would be the same as the ocean now or not.

Allahu A'lam.

**Abu Zakir** · 15-08-2012, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by uali3

Salamz brother, if you go on the main website, which is, http://www.islamibayanaat.com/EMQ.htm , then go on page 676 - 731, it will be under the commentary of the first verse of surah takwir. Look forward to hearing from you.

Salamz I am not getting anywhere with this, it downloads, I can see the first page but I cannot scroll, if I try to save as it also crashes, tried both firefox as well as ie.

Not sure I would have been able to answer anyway I was just curious. It is dangerous to get doubts about the nusus you should try to read it with someone who can guide you nearby.

Remember there is a hadith that says Shaitan has his throne out in the ocean because he is trying to immiitate the Throne of Allah Most High because that too is on the water. This means in the unseen there is water. So the verse could mean something like that water.

Alahu alam.

**Starting_anew** · 15-08-2012, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Abu Zakir

Salamz I am not getting anywhere with this, it downloads, I can see the first page but I cannot scroll, if I try to save as it also crashes, tried both firefox as well as ie.

Not sure I would have been able to answer anyway I was just curious. It is dangerous to get doubts about the nusus you should try to read it with someone who can guide you nearby.

Remember there is a hadith that says Shaitan has his throne out in the ocean because he is trying to immiitate the Throne of Allah Most High because that too is on the water. This means in the unseen there is water. So the verse could mean something like that water.

Alahu alam.

I took the liberty of attaching it for you.

**Abu Zakir** · 15-08-2012, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Starting_anew

I took the liberty of attaching it for you.

Thanks, I can see it now

Maybe the sun will be shrunk into the size of a football? Anything is possible if Mountains can be reduced to 'as moving clouds'.

found this:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/sub...tardeath.shtml

which says stars expand when they die. But Allah is the Master of life and nature He can do whatever He likes, the sun will rise from the west so normal operations will be reversed. So there is nothing to say that the sun and the moon cannot be shrunk to nothingness or to a small size and thrown into the ocean with the energy of millions on nuclear explosions.