What Tax rate is Islamically appropriate for the modern Muslim nation state?

[Abu Zakir]

Salaams is this book on Pdf online?

only html with portions in pdf see the download section for this. It looks like a brelwi site.


http://www.hizmetbooks.org/Religion_Reformers_in_Islam/

[AbdurRaheem2]

only html with portions in pdf see the download section for this. It looks like a brelwi site.


http://www.hizmetbooks.org/Religion_Reformers_in_Islam/

yes I seem to remember that it is Turkish but linked Barelvis.

mm that book holds Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Tabilighi Jamaat in very low esteem.

a bit off putting.

[Abu Zakir]

yes I seem to remember that it is Turkish but linked Barelvis.

mm that book holds Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Tabilighi Jamaat in very low esteem.

a bit off putting.

Yet Sayid Qutub one of the Ikwani Muslimeen founders was obviously influenced by the fascist catholic doctor Alex Carrel who he quotes and agrees with all the time. Fascists it must be remembered like communists will say and do anything to get into power. Once in power they set about creating their totalitarian state, telling everyone its for their own good/benefit. Statists love creating a powerful state it is intoxicating for the nafs to play 'god', and whoever sits in the driving seat then gets to control everything. At least in a more de-centralized and distributed country it is very difficult for a control freak tyrant to take control of the country, he finds the driving seat, but the controls and gears do not work. This is preferable and amenable to deen. The Ikhwanis are trying to recreate a 19th and 20th century state...when we all know that power does not reside in politics..it resides in the 'international' bankers.

[Abdul1234]

[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;806872 The Ikhwanis are trying to recreate a 19th and 20th century state...when we all know that power does not reside in politics..it resides in the 'international' bankers.[/QUOTE]

maybe they are trying to create something that isn't in the history books, give them a break brother.

[mubakr]

Please read the text below. It is by an HT activist. Personally I would advise people not to join them or associate with them politically for a number of reasons, but on issues like this exact one they have a strong understanding of how to approach it Islamically in a sensible way. In general terms this article makes a great deal of sense.

Habib. This article has enlightened me greatly. I am refering to your post 17 and the extract from Abdul Kaleem's book. It answers alot of questions. There are still some important unanswered questions from my quick read of it and inshAllah I will critically read this book. However it makes it clear that there is an additional obligatory financial duty upon Muslims beyond what is Zakat and other revenue options of Bait-ul Mal to meet a concept called the obligatory expenditure of the nation. Thus Tax, albeit very different from western taxation structure, has not only been termed a valid concept in Islam, It infact has been made obligatory by this Scholar's opinions and analysis. If you read the obligatory expenditure I was thinking mainly about basic health care/education but this Habibi author, may Allah increase his welfare concerns, includes so many things - water supplies, roads, famines, disasters, mosques, payment for teachers and other things.

Saying all this I wont be surprised the communist blanket label falls upon this Scholar.

[Abu Zakir]

maybe they are trying to create something that isn't in the history books, give them a break brother.

Giving them a break will lead to pain for the umma, their origins are based on a subconscious and resentful admiration of the west and its methods....so while they criticise the west, they want Muslims to adopt its ways...And western nation-states are in decline...national governments have very little power to control international bankers. International bankers love nation-states ruled by secular democracy because it gives them total command over the nation while protected and veiled by the national politicians.

[Abdul1234]

Giving them a break will lead to pain for the umma

no it wont InshaAllah, it will just stop you going on and on about how they are a tool of the bankers on Sunniforum .

Eid Mubarak brother!