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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Callum View Post
    MashAllah!


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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Is he also trapped by the Barelwis?
    "Reformation of the last of this Ummah will not be possible except by adopting the method which was used in the beginning."

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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Zahed View Post
    Is he also trapped by the Barelwis?
    Inna Lilahe Wa Inna Elahe Rajeun.

    Can't you just pray for the increase of his Eman.!

    Nobody knows about qayamah.

    Allah could even put Barelvi in Jannah & Deobandi in Jahanum or vice versa.


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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    many people have had the Bayah of blessing with Sheikh Nazim or his representatives, without necessary becoming his follower in a deeper way.


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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul1234 View Post
    many people have had the Bayah of blessing with Sheikh Nazim or his representatives, without necessary becoming his follower in a deeper way.

    I though Allah (SW)alone has the authority to bless any human being

    Unless you are talking about some Hindu and Sikh stuff
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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Quote Originally Posted by XTREME View Post
    Inna Lilahe Wa Inna Elahe Rajeun.

    Can't you just pray for the increase of his Eman.!

    Nobody knows about qayamah.

    Allah could even put Barelvi in Jannah & Deobandi in Jahanum or vice versa.
    What about saying- "Allah could even put Shi'ites in Jannah & Sunnis in Jahannum or vice versa." Isn't it absurd to say? Its a simple analogy. How can one person enter into Jannah who calls other muslims as infidels?

    Disclaimer: I'm not calling any particular group/sect as Kuffar here. I consider them as Kuffar who have corrupt beliefs which nullify their Imaan.
    "Reformation of the last of this Ummah will not be possible except by adopting the method which was used in the beginning."

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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    So the sheikh according to the above commentator is a student of Imam Ahmed Raza khan ? Could you list the rational criteria to determine a person as a "berelwi" ?

    As for the topic video, it seems to be just a association for barakah. Can't make much judgement out of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahed

    What about saying- "Allah could even put Shi'ites in Jannah & Sunnis in Jahannum or vice versa." Isn't it absurd to say? Its a simple analogy. How can one person enter into Jannah who calls other muslims as infidels?

    Disclaimer: I'm not calling any particular group/sect as Kuffar here. I consider them as Kuffar who have corrupt beliefs which nullify their Imaan.
    Allah the king of kings is answerable to NONE, so be humble inshala.
    All praise be to Allah, Rabb of the worlds. Salutations and Salam be on the Chief of all messengers.

    “O Allāh, You are my supporter and You are my helper, by You I repel (the enemy) and by You I attack, and by You I battle.” “Sahīh Abī Dāwūd” “Sahīh Al-Jamilah“Al-Kalim At-Tayyib”


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    Default Re: Boxer Muhammad Ali taking Bayah in Naqshbandi Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinn View Post
    Allah the king of kings is answerable to NONE, so be humble inshala.
    There are numerous Ahadith regarding causes those nullify one's Imaan. I'm talking on the light of these. I've also clarified about my own understanding. So, I see nothing of my post matches with your post.
    "Reformation of the last of this Ummah will not be possible except by adopting the method which was used in the beginning."

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