Eid Salaah Fardh or Sunnah by Dr Zakir Naik

[Husnaa]

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...-Dr-Zakir-Naik

Eid Salaah (for men and women) is Fardh? Even bring your menstruating women to the "event"?

[bugmenot]

It is not obligatory for women, but it is Sunnah. Women should offer this prayer in the prayer-place with the Muslims, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined them to do that.

In al-Saheehayn and elsewhere it is narrated that Umm ‘Atiyah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “We were commanded (and in one report it says, he commanded us – meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) to bring out to the Eid prayers the adolescent girls and the women in seclusion, and he commanded the menstruating women to avoid the prayer-place of the Muslims.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1/93; Muslim, 890. According to another report: “We were commanded to come out and to bring out the adolescent girls and those in seclusion.”

According to a report narrated by al-Tirmidhi: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to bring out the virgins, adolescent girls, women in seclusion and menstruating women on the two Eids, but the menstruating women were to keep away from the prayer place and witness the gathering of the Muslims. One of them said, “O Messenger of Allaah, what if she does not have a jilbaab?” He said, “Then let her sister lend her one of her jilbaabs.” (Agreed upon).

According to a report narrated by al-Nasaa’i, Hafsah bint Sireen said: Umm ‘Atiyyah hardly ever mentioned the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but she would say, “May my father be sacrificed for him.” I said, “Did you hear the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say such and such,” and she said, “Yes, may my father be sacrificed for him, and he said, ‘Let the adolescent girls, women in seclusion and menstruating women come out to attend Eid and witness the gathering of the Muslims, but let the menstruating women avoid the prayer place.’” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1/84

Based on the above, it is clear that for women to go out and attend the Eid prayers is a confirmed Sunnah, but that is subject to the condition that they do not go out unveiled or making a wanton display of themselves, as is known from other evidence.

With regard to boys who have reached the age of discretion going out to Eid prayer, Jumu’ah prayers, etc., this is something which is well known and is prescribed in Islam, because there is a great deal of evidence to that effect.

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas, 8/284-286
Islam-q a.com

[Husnaa]

@Nomadic
he doesn't always give his personal opinion but states what scholars have said - is that wrong? If a computer expert says "HP make the best quality laptops" and you state that is it wrong?

In fact on this issue ZN states the Hanafi ruling so you as a Hanafi shouldn't get uptight.

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even if he states the hanafi opinion over something, there are many many instances when he will derive fiqh directly from the saheeh sittah and Qur'an. and he is not qualified to do it hence he should be avoided always. even a slight promotion of his fiqh lectures might get some layman hooked to him and become ghair muqallid. people should be told: listen to him for comparative religion debates if you wish, but never on anything apart from that.

[mohtashims]

@Nomadic
he doesn't always give his personal opinion but states what scholars have said - is that wrong? If a computer expert says "HP make the best quality laptops" and you state that is it wrong?

In fact on this issue ZN states the Hanafi ruling so you as a Hanafi shouldn't get uptight.

Well, if he takes off from the runway fine and messes up while landing would you take a back seat on his flight in the first place ?

[Shuayb Abdul-Khaaliq]

If a computer expert says "HP make the best quality laptops" and you state that is it wrong?

A "computer expert" doesn't know which brand of computers is the "best", nor does he know what constitutes a computer as being the "best quality". He's a computer expert, meaning he is around computers a lot, works with them a lot, and hence has come to have a good understanding of them. So when he says "X brand is the best", it's possible he may be right, while there's also a possibility that he may be wrong.

However, if a person is truly seeking an accurate answer, he will go to someone who specializes in the field of determining quality of laptops, let's call him "computer quality expert". Someone who has dedicated a good chunk of their lifetime learning what constitutes a good quality laptop, how to tell if a laptop is good quality, what sort of tests to run to determine that, etc... this person is very different than the "computer expert", although they may seem similar at first glance.

To make my point again, the "computer expert" may or may not give an accurate answer. While the "computer quality expert" will give an accurate answer, or at least much more so than the "computer expert".

If the "computer expert" tells me "HP makes the best quality laptops", I should not outright state that this is wrong, because as a laymen I am not qualified to say so. Rather, before I take this computer expert's advice, I will first go to a "computer quality expert" who I trust, and ask him to verify that HP in fact does make the best quality laptops. If he gives me his approval, then I will go ahead and purchase an HP laptop. If he says "No, stay away from HP. Get a Sony instead", then I will get the Sony.

[Husnaa]

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I agree. I mean "computer quality expert". I missed the word "quality". You have spare time today to write all that brother. You knew what I meant - you were just belabouring the point.

A "computer expert" doesn't know which brand of computers is the "best", nor does he know what constitutes a computer as being the "best quality". He's a computer expert, meaning he is around computers a lot, works with them a lot, and hence has come to have a good understanding of them. So when he says "X brand is the best", it's possible he may be right, while there's also a possibility that he may be wrong.

However, if a person is truly seeking an accurate answer, he will go to someone who specializes in the field of determining quality of laptops, let's call him "computer quality expert". Someone who has dedicated a good chunk of their lifetime learning what constitutes a good quality laptop, how to tell if a laptop is good quality, what sort of tests to run to determine that, etc... this person is very different than the "computer expert", although they may seem similar at first glance.

To make my point again, the "computer expert" may or may not give an accurate answer. While the "computer quality expert" will give an accurate answer, or at least much more so than the "computer expert".

If the "computer expert" tells me "HP makes the best quality laptops", I should not outright state that this is wrong, because as a laymen I am not qualified to say so. Rather, before I take this computer expert's advice, I will first go to a "computer quality expert" who I trust, and ask him to verify that HP in fact does make the best quality laptops. If he gives me his approval, then I will go ahead and purchase an HP laptop. If he says "No, stay away from HP. Get a Sony instead", then I will get the Sony.

[Shuayb Abdul-Khaaliq]

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I agree. I mean "computer quality expert". I missed the word "quality".

Sorry, no take-backs. You said what you said and I said what I said.

You have spare time today to write all that brother.

Sister, this comment is based on your assumption that it took me a significant amount of time to write "all that".

You knew what I meant - you were just belabouring the point.

I know what you meant but I was just trying to give you a different perspective.

In any case, I watched the video in the OP, and I don't have any issue with Dr. Zakir Naik's comments in this particular video. I don't think what he's doing here could be called issuing a "fatwa". He's basically summarizing the view's of the 4 Imams (ra) and then says something to the effect that Imam Abu Hanifa's (ra) view is the strongest to him (that it is fardh) based on such and such ahadith etc, and so he agrees with that particular view on this particular matter. What I don't know is if the views and ahadith he has summarized in the video are fully accurate, because I don't have knowledge on the subject matter, so I will leave that for the knowledgeable to determine.

Allah knows best.