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    Default Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    Abu Musa narrated – I entered upon the Messenger of Allah with
    two men from the bani umaay,so one of the two men said – O
    Messenger of Allah appoint me over some of that which Allah made
    you responsible for, and the other man also said something similar
    So the Prophet replied “I swear by Allah I would not appoint over
    this work anyone who asked for it nor anyone who covets it”
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    a. To seek positions of ruling for the authority they bestow is not the
    characteristic of a leader, and hence anyone who has such aspirations
    is not suitable for the position.
    b. These principles are in contrast to the non-Islamic political bodies
    where politics is seen as a profession and a way to make money and
    garner power, and hence becomes coveted and competed over
    amongst anyone irrespective of their capabilities.


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    lol that is a very good point

    It is said that seeking to be the Caliph may be seen as disqualifiying one from it.

    however once a Caliph is in power, even if he came to power by force

    so long as he enjoins Islam etc it is forbidden to fight him or disssent


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    Abu Musa narrated – I entered upon the Messenger of Allah with
    two men from the bani umaay,so one of the two men said – O
    Messenger of Allah appoint me over some of that which Allah made
    you responsible for, and the other man also said something similar
    So the Prophet replied “I swear by Allah I would not appoint over
    this work anyone who asked for it nor anyone who covets it”
    (Muslim)

    Commentary
    a. To seek positions of ruling for the authority they bestow is not the
    characteristic of a leader, and hence anyone who has such aspirations
    is not suitable for the position.
    b. These principles are in contrast to the non-Islamic political bodies
    where politics is seen as a profession and a way to make money and
    garner power, and hence becomes coveted and competed over
    amongst anyone irrespective of their capabilities.
    However this is not the reason democracy is not allowed in Islam.
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    Default Re: Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by islamion View Post
    However this is not the reason democracy is not allowed in Islam.
    One of the reasons, another is obviously because the majority of people can never be the source of law. If the majority think homosexuality is halal it does not become halal. However the people who argue for Islamic democracy claim that a Islamic democracy would only legislate the halal and prohibit the haram.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakir View Post
    One of the reasons, another is obviously because the majority of people can never be the source of law. If the majority think homosexuality is halal it does not become halal. However the people who argue for Islamic democracy claim that a Islamic democracy would only legislate the halal and prohibit the haram.
    And.. the majority of the people are "dumb" so how can the uneducated people rule the country.. lolz
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    Default Re: Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by islamion View Post
    And.. the majority of the people are "dumb" so how can the uneducated people rule the country.. lolz
    This is silly . How is Democracy haram ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_husain View Post
    This is silly . How is Democracy haram ?
    Democracy is not just haram, it is a system of Kufr. It is haram to implement it in any country because it is not Shariah, in fact it is man-made. Anything which is not Shariah is kufr and is not acceptable. For evidences you may read the books of salaf sualiheen.


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    Default Re: Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    There is no doubt that uncontrolled democracy is Haram. The democracy in which the majority opinion is allowed to do legislation against the rules set by Islam is ofcourse in a head on collision with Islam but what about controlled democracies? A controlled democracy can make it binding upon the elected members constitutionally not to legislate against Islam and if they try to it shall be deemed as unconstitutional by a court of law.

    The second form of controlled democracy can be that there shall be a constant council of scholars and the council collectively shall be taken as the head of the state. Under this council a democratically elected assembly is established which can look after the issues of of public welfare and has nothing to do with legislation.
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    Default Re: Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    read this, it will help you to understand the matter better:http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/Z5235D.pdf


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    Default Re: Why Democracy is Prohibited in Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by dr.ati View Post
    The second form of controlled democracy can be that there shall be a constant council of scholars and the council collectively shall be taken as the head of the state. Under this council a democratically elected assembly is established which can look after the issues of of public welfare and has nothing to do with legislation.
    this is pretty much what the shura (in the upper tier). for the lower tier perhaps one may look at the system in iran. in the lower cadre however what Islamic shariah demands are appointments. in election campaigns of course the first thing sacrificed is calls and promises for actual implementation or enforcement of Islam. people will not vote for a so-called Mullah even if he is on lower tier. elections assumes that people know collectively what is better for them , when in fact they would always , collectively, go towards the easier options rather than the correct ones. unless of course one has a population that is majorly pious.

    plus such elections would retain the corrupt civil servants etc in the public service (after many elections in pakistan and many votes they are still there, but with different parties). such elections would also require a near to 80-90 % turnout (which is rare) and also clean fair elections.

    then again in Islam the preferred practice has always been appointments and not self-promotion (as in asking to be appointed) which pretty much nullifies candidacy.

    (many people who are pro-democracy make the grave error in assuming that in shariah every appointment is a religious scholar when in fact the person can be anyone who is upright (and preferably religious), it is just that the appointment made is by a scholar)
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