Disposing of Shi'a wird cards

[abdulwahhab]

I came upon a card that has the name of Allah written all over it as well as some of His attributes. The problem is, they are in the form of a circular diagram as you find in amulets and some ta'weez. There is also a Shi'a du'a on it as well as the Shi'a kalimah on it (i.e. the addition of علي ولي الله at the end of the kalimah). On the flip side, there is a long du'a called "du'a e noor" that is hard to read, but from what I can decipher, it seems to be this du'a (warning: Shi'a website).

Is it permissible to directly dispose of the card or should it be buried? There is no ayah from the Qur'an on it but there are the names of Allah on it and besides the amulet-style diagrams, the entire back is full of the du'a mentioned before which also doesn't contain any Qur'anic verse. Also, I have never heard of this du'a before as it may not be sunnah and be derived from amongst the Shi'a but it doesn't appear to contain anything questionable, either.

[Sulaiman84]

Since it has the blessed name of Allah , take the side of caution and burn it.

[abdulwahhab]

Maybe burn it and then hunt down a shia and kill!

Why do you even care about the Shi'a when you think Islam is pan-Arabism? If it weren't for those dirty Arabs, Persia would have retained its rich cultural heritage of kufr.

[abdulwahhab]

I was kidding! I mean there are soo many offensive posts here! WHY are you bothered by my post?

I advise you to stop posting non-sense on the forums. If you have nothing to contribute, then use the forums as a resource of knowledge. Don't just spew things that are tantamount to kufr.

[abdulwahhab]

but there are posts here that say Shia should vanish and many other offensive stuff. Are you ok with that kind of stuff that promote killing of Shia??

You won't find any serious person here saying that all Shi'a should die or vanish. Any such rhetoric is usually in response to a Shi'a cursing the sahaba or the pure wives or attacking the Qur'an or pretending to be a Sunni while attacking Sunni sources of knowledge (a LOT of Shi'a have done that on this forum) and is in reference to a specific type of Shi'a.

The same rule applies to even Sunni claimants: if a Sunni-claimant attacks the sahaba or the pure wives and doesn't mince words, you'll find Sunnis saying that this person also deserves death but frankly, even though Shi'as make up about 15% of all Muslims, so much rhetoric against the sahaba and the pure wives come from them that people end up generalizing.

And there is another school of thought, even among the Shi'a, that say that one is not a true Shi'a or a true Muslim if he or she doesn't hate the sahaba or the pure wives . These are the types of Shi'a that are mostly referred to whenever people wish for the end of the Shi'a or whenever people call Shi'a as kaafir.

The Shi'a engage in many strange practices, from matam to mut'ah, but Sunnis do not have a problem if Shi'as want to do these strange things, but as soon as a Shi'a opens his mouth against the sahaba or the pure wives , then we have a problem.

If a Shi'a does not believe in the following:
1. tahreef/alteration of the Qur'an
2. cursing/insulting/holding bad beliefs about any of the companions of Rasoolullah
3. cursing/insulting/holding bad beliefs about any of the wives of Rasoolullah
4. divine imamate which is esteemed to levels greater than the prophets
5. divine and pure imams who have the knowledge of every atom and knew even the times of their deaths

...then he is on common ground with Muslims in terms of beliefs. Look at the Zaydi branch of Shi'a. You won't find many, if any, Sunni calling the Zaydi Shi'a a kaafir. On the other hand, the 12-ers (ithna ashariyah) Shi'a do hold the beliefs listed above, expelling them from Islam, but there are many who are not even aware of some or all of these beliefs, which is what prevents the Sunni scholars from giving a blanket fatwa of kufr upon the Shi'a.

[Arif2]

Since it has the blessed name of Allah , take the side of caution and burn it.

Is this the safe option? Isn't the safest option to bury it? And if you can't do that, to throw it into a running body of water, and if you cannot do either of those remove the name of Allah, his angels, and his messengers from it and then burn it?

[Sulaiman84]

Is this the safe option? Isn't the safest option to bury it? And if you can't do that, to throw it into a running body of water, and if you cannot do either of those remove the name of Allah, his angels, and his messengers from it and then burn it?

I'm mistaken. It looks like you're right. Or the better thing to do is bury it in a place where no one walks.

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