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    I recall when I was young and very ignorant that on watching a documentary on Iran before 1979... I was shocked! I didn't know the history. I had thought Iran was very conservative and religious from seeing footage in the 80s. But they were showing Iranians (females) in miniskirts, on the beach, smoking, dancing in clubs with music with the men! Shock to the system! ..... My 2 cents.
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    Dear IranianGirl,

    Though Khomeini was an evil person, he was correct about one thing - Islamic law is and always has been necessary. It is one of the tenets of the Islamic religion that Islamic law must be ruled with. Believing that religion and state can be separated is apostasy. Read Surat an-Nisaa', ayahs 60-70.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeed View Post
    Dear IranianGirl,

    Though Khomeini was an evil person, he was correct about one thing - Islamic law is and always has been necessary. It is one of the tenets of the Islamic religion that Islamic law must be ruled with. Believing that religion and state can be separated is apostasy. Read Surat an-Nisaa', ayahs 60-70.
    SO, what your saying is the only way to have freedom is to remove Islam from our society completely?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IranianGirl View Post
    SO, what your saying is the only way to have freedom is to remove Islam from our society completely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IranianGirl View Post
    SO, what your saying is the only way to have freedom is to remove Islam from our society completely?
    ...No, what I'm saying is that if you think it's permissible or fine to rule with non-Islamic laws, then you're not a Muslim.

    If this 'freedom' you are talking about is freedom to join communist parties, buy and sell alcoholic beverages, and propagate atheism, then yes, this freedom is unattainable except by removing the last vestiges of the Imam-worship that some people call Islam mistakenly from Iran.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeed View Post
    ...No, what I'm saying is that if you think it's permissible or fine to rule with non-Islamic laws, then you're not a Muslim.

    If this 'freedom' you are talking about is freedom to join communist parties, buy and sell alcoholic beverages, and propagate atheism, then yes, this freedom is unattainable except by removing the last vestiges of the Imam-worship that some people call Islam mistakenly from Iran.
    So Iranians in Iran should be happy they have an Islamic Ruler? LOL, do you know how unhappy they are??? Mullahs and Sheikhs don't dare to walk alone anywhere, they get attack. Some Iranians have Annual Burn a Quran day!!! Search bun Quran on Youtube. YOUR TELLING ME IRANIANS SHOULD JUST BE HAPPY THEY HAVE AN ISLAMIC REGIME.LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by IranianGirl View Post
    So Iranians in Iran should be happy they have an Islamic Ruler? LOL, do you know how unhappy they are??? Mullahs and Sheikhs don't dare to walk alone anywhere, they get attack. Some Iranians have Annual Burn a Quran day!!! Search bun Quran on Youtube. YOUR TELLING ME IRANIANS SHOULD JUST BE HAPPY THEY HAVE AN ISLAMIC REGIME.LOL
    Then those Iranians are not Muslim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abdulwahhab View Post
    Then those Iranians are not Muslim.
    60% of iranian in iran don't identfy themselves as muslims. They other do so b/c they think they belong to the rest of the Muslims of the world. BUT now with the help of the Internet they can see that Sunni consider them Kafir. So i guess the number of not-muslims are growing rapidly.Also with the help of secretive Christian Missionaries, many are converting to Christianity. IM NOT KIDDING. I've seen secert churches with my own eyes. Usually In people's house .


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    Quote Originally Posted by IranianGirl View Post
    60% of iranian in iran don't identfy themselves as muslims. They other do so b/c they think they belong to the rest of the Muslims of the world. BUT now with the help of the Internet they can see that Sunni consider them Kafir. So i guess the number of not-muslims are growing rapidly.Also with the help of secretive Christian Missionaries, many are converting to Christianity. IM NOT KIDDING. I've seen secert churches with my own eyes. Usually In people's house .
    60 % ? Source ?

    I have read about Christian missionary attempts in Iran and my doubts are that part of the "war on Iran" by west is by these same misssionarys, after Iranian govt.cracked them down. Modern missionary propoganda by many christians is to use the "persecuted" and "liberators" appearance, to get converts or atleast a pro-christian government. (You should start a new topic on christian proselytizing in Iran with authentic facts and figures. Its a important topic. The rumors on this are being used by Christians to give the impression that something big is going on there.)

    Finally, there is a prophecy that a large number of dajjals followers would emerge from tht region I.e. Isfahan. So don't let those apostates drag you down with them. There maybe plenty of falsehood by the ayatollah regime(which i read was influenced by Mawdudi) but don't let it make you prefer greater falsehood in exchange.


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    Default Re: Iran before Khomeini during the Shah - I was shocked!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by IranianGirl View Post
    60% of iranian in iran don't identfy themselves as muslims. They other do so b/c they think they belong to the rest of the Muslims of the world. BUT now with the help of the Internet they can see that Sunni consider them Kafir. So i guess the number of not-muslims are growing rapidly.Also with the help of secretive Christian Missionaries, many are converting to Christianity. IM NOT KIDDING. I've seen secert churches with my own eyes. Usually In people's house .
    this Christian missionary just revealed itself.

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