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    Default Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    I've been trying to understand it from what i've read on this website, but the information is limited. Are there any books specifically in english, but arabic is ok too that I can purchase online... Or read online, thank you.


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    There is a brother called "al-Hanbali" in this forum who could probably help you.


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    As'salamu 'alaykum,

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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hosni View Post
    As'salamu 'alaykum,

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    asalamu alaykum. thats one heck of a rivival of a thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yahya Ibn Sal View Post
    I've been trying to understand it from what i've read on this website, but the information is limited. Are there any books specifically in english, but arabic is ok too that I can purchase online... Or read online, thank you.
    All of the following can be acquired I believe free online as pdf documents

    The most standardized athari texts are

    1. Risaalah ibn Abi Zayd
    2. Aqeedatu-Tahaawiyyah
    3. Lumatul-'Itiqaad
    4. Aqeedatul-Waasitiyyah

    There are also works by Atharis that explain these works in detail.

    asalamu alaykum
    قال عمرو بن تميم المكي سمعت محمد بن إسماعيل الترمذئ قال سمعت المزني يقول لا يصح لأحد توحيد حتى يعلم أن الله تعالى على العرش بصفاته قلت له مثل أي شيء قال سميع بصيرعليم


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by al-boriqi View Post
    asalamu alaykum. thats one heck of a rivival of a thread



    All of the following can be acquired I believe free online as pdf documents

    The most standardized athari texts are

    1. Risaalah ibn Abi Zayd
    2. Aqeedatu-Tahaawiyyah
    3. Lumatul-'Itiqaad
    4. Aqeedatul-Waasitiyyah

    There are also works by Atharis that explain these works in detail.

    asalamu alaykum
    Wa 'alaykum salam wa rahmatoulahi wa barakatouhou,

    BarakAllahu'fik


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by al-boriqi View Post

    1. Risaalah ibn Abi Zayd
    Abi Zayd al qayrawani the famous maliki scholar right?


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hosni View Post
    Abi Zayd al qayrawani the famous maliki scholar right?
    yes.
    قال عمرو بن تميم المكي سمعت محمد بن إسماعيل الترمذئ قال سمعت المزني يقول لا يصح لأحد توحيد حتى يعلم أن الله تعالى على العرش بصفاته قلت له مثل أي شيء قال سميع بصيرعليم


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by al-boriqi View Post
    yes.
    al-Darqash said that he was an ash'ari and al Qadi 'Iyad mentionned in Tartib al-Madarik that he has defended the ash'ari school, do you think he was a real athari like Ibn Qudama (rahimahu Allah)?


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hosni View Post
    al-Darqash said that he was an ash'ari and al Qadi 'Iyad mentionned in Tartib al-Madarik that he has defended the ash'ari school, do you think he was a real athari like Ibn Qudama (rahimahu Allah)?
    السلام عليكم
    Qadhi Iyyad was an imam of ahlu-Sunnah an a treasure. However he is known by atharis to have been mistaken on some issues, particularly with certain tawilaat of sifaat and as we'll adopting the unfounded methodology of the kalaam prospect of tafweed m'anawiyya, whereas the concept of tafweed m'anawiyyah is antithetical to the aqeedah of ithbaat from the salaf, since the tafweed that the early salaf and the erudite ulema who explained their aqeedah was the tafweed of kayfiyya.

    Ibnul-Qudaamah was an athari, yes, but we don't consider Qaadhi Iyyad rahmatullahi alayh, to be an authoritative figure of atharism.

    Understand where we come from. Atharism was the default millah of the ummah. Everyone who is Muslim was athari for the first four centuries. The itiqaad al-qadri was the ummahs testimony to this fact. Hence anything that differs from this is seen as a divergence of the default millah of Islam.

    السلام عليكم


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    Default Re: Any books on the Athari Aqeedah.

    Quote Originally Posted by al-boriqi View Post
    السلام عليكم
    Qadhi Iyyad was an imam of ahlu-Sunnah an a treasure. However he is known by atharis to have been mistaken on some issues, particularly with certain tawilaat of sifaat and as we'll adopting the unfounded methodology of the kalaam prospect of tafweed m'anawiyya, whereas the concept of tafweed m'anawiyyah is antithetical to the aqeedah of ithbaat from the salaf, since the tafweed that the early salaf and the erudite ulema who explained their aqeedah was the tafweed of kayfiyya.

    Ibnul-Qudaamah was an athari, yes, but we don't consider Qaadhi Iyyad rahmatullahi alayh, to be an authoritative figure of atharism.

    Understand where we come from. Atharism was the default millah of the ummah. Everyone who is Muslim was athari for the first four centuries. The itiqaad al-qadri was the ummahs testimony to this fact. Hence anything that differs from this is seen as a divergence of the default millah of Islam.

    السلام عليكم
    asharis and maturidis are part of ahlul sunnah wa jamaa
    stop spreading your propaganda


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