how to give dawah to a born again christian

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

anyone know how to give dawah to a born again christian preacher?

I joined the classmates list so my old classmates could get in touch with me and unfortunately some ppl whom i really didnt want to contact or them to contact me have done so... and one is a born again christian preacher who has given me a long long email or list of his beliefs shooting down the muslim beliefs.... I thought about perhaps ignoring it and saying thanks for your lecture im muslim btw.... yet the person persisted to insist that their religion was the one true one and islam wasnt... and then said if you disagree with me and say im wrong or mock me some curse will befall on you. (LOL) not sure how that would work perhaps the person contacts the jinns into helping him to get ppl to believe in him. Allahu Alim.

Just need advice on how to get this person to see islam rather than seeing the bad media stuff and just really seeing it...instead of seeing it as the Prophet Muhammad's religion...

JazakuAllahkhairun.

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

*ahem*
anyone know?

i need tons of tips or what to say... the person keeps sending me tons of bible scriptures preaching and then to say islam is wrong and false. I've tried telling the person but I think I need more stuff to make him see and believe and think and realize this is the truth instead of just reading it and not understanding it.
jazakuAllahkhairun.

[GenN]

Assalmu alykum,

here is a dialogue beween a christian convert to islam and a born again christain. It has some good pointers you can perhaps pick up on although it is nothing special in my opinion. Also the website itself has some good info on Christanity i guess. Yusef estes is a christain convert and he seems to know his stuff.

hope it helps.

http://www.****************/en/module...article&sid=28

was salaam

[fnaeem]

Assalmu alaikum,

there is a book by jerald dirks. an ex christian minister. on islamicbookstore.com. it is called understanding islam, for the judeo-christian reader. I havent read the book, but it may prove to be helpful.

One thing that you should do is fight his postions. Original sin etc. They will come at you from all directions, and if you cant defend only one thing perfectly, he will quote it as his victory. Take the fight to him.
Okay Mr X this is your understanding and this is my understanding of your religion, and of course with biblical inaccuracies etc on your side. You can maybe even search deedat videos on aswat etc. or show how the bible has changed. Can his god not make up its mind and needs to keep altering the scripture as times changes. Whatever happened to the omniscient aspect of his god.


Faisal

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

JazakuAllahkhairun.... i'll be posting this to the person, and hope the person doesnt flood my email...

[asma]

ukhti

Try asking him:

1. why would a loving or merciful deity demand the sacrifice of innocent blood for the salvation of humanity?

2. what's the purpose of continuing to live if one's salvation is assured through belief in Jesus?

3. how is it worse to be wholeheartedly devoted to God than to be a total atheist? (then pack him off to bug the half or more of your classmates who have no faith at all.)

may Allah swt inspire you with clever proofs..
Your sister writing from the buckle of the bible belt ,
Asma

[Muawiyah]

How about you post his messages on this forum and we'll all disect them.

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

here it is below;

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Dear ????



I read in the bible God and Father of Jesus Christ always need a man to preach and to do his work and warn the people before God really inter fears. And people most of the time never listened and lots of wrath in the bible....

Yes, God has and will put more people in hell when Jesus comes...in the Bible in Luke 16 Jesus spoke of a person in hell crying dieing of thirst as he refused to obey the word of God from the profits and Moses (This was before the cross there was no salvation like there is today Jesus went to the cross so that I would not suffer the wrath of God) Jesus was whipped and spat upon and had nails put through his hands...God cast angels into hell 2nd Peter 2:4 "For if God spared not the angles that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgement." All the fires, floods, earth quakes, hurricanes, floods, and 9\11 etc....9\11 was the work of my Good using your people/religion to bring the Christians down. Amos 3:6...Shall there be not an evil in a city and the Lord hath not done it?...it was all the work of my God Isaiah 45:6 "I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I the Lord do all these things." Yes, A God of evil God has lots of bad thoughts then good thoughts toward people...the bible has more of God's cursing and wrath then blessings. why? because man don't want to listen to his Son to the word of God...Isaiah 66:15 "For behold the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh; and the slain of the Lord shall be many." Again the new testament states the same thing...2nd Thessalonians chapter 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God and that obey not the gospel of out Lord Jesus Christ; who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and form the glory of his power"...the reason why there are so many religions out there is simple 2nd Thessalonians 2:9 Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, (The Bible Gospel of Christ the Word Of God. not God people not to receive it is his word)because they receive not the love of hte truth that they might be saved.

AND FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION TO BELIEVE A LIE: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVE NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH...what s the lie. religion, man made doctrines man made Gospel. yes, man got their ideas from the bible but they twisted the scriptures and made their own religions out of it. and my God is allowing this to happen he isn't going to disturb them one bit...he did it so that the scriptures must be filled...9\11 happened because the scriptures must be fulfilled...Mathew 24:7 For nation shall rise up against nation and kingdom against kingdom and there shall be famines and pestilence and earthquakes in divers places...God is using your religion/people the Muslims your people/religion to curse the soph called Christians as they refused the bible...Deuteronomy 28:49-50 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation who tongue thou shalt not understand a nation of fierce countenance which shall not regard the person of old nor shew favour to the young: and he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he hath destroyed thee. People soph called Christians are involved with celebrations and rioting that the Muslims are better living people then the church folk in North America or for the rather the whole world...they are cursed in Israel today because they refused Jesus Christ and refused the love of the truth...Galatians 1:8

But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you then that which we have preached unto you let him be accursed...and the Israel deserves all what is happening to them because my God set it up like that...they refuse to hear his Son..they killed him even John 1:11 He came unto his own and his own received him not. I am persecuted even today because I preach the real Jesus...the soph called Christians especially the denominations today are reading another Gospel and perverted the bible...I am persecuted by all sides by parents etc...and Jesus said that I will suffer persecutions by parents and by family etc. for his name's sake Matthew 10:35-36 and A man's foes shall be they of his own household...Romans 8:17 And if children then heirs; heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be we suffer with him that we may be glorified together...Jesus never was sent to make peace but a sword so that God can have a separate people unto himself...God always needed a man and had a man if it wasn't this man he had another...Jesus came so that I can be free from sin, back in Moses days (or what Mohammad likes to use the books of Moses for his base) there was no way to be free from sin....Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, (Moses law the ten commandments could never keep people out of sin permanently it was for a short time by killing animals blood and goats blood and ox blood etc..what is known as the law of sin and death) in that it was week in the flesh,

God sending his only SON IN THE LIKENES OF SINFUL FLESH AND FOR SIN CONDEMNED IN THE FLESH... Yes, Jesus was a man like us he walked like us as you said and talked and eat and drank etc..but, he was in the flesh for this one reason he was born to die...he had to suffer in the flesh himself to be an example to me...1st Timothy chapter 1:16 howbeit it for this cause I obtained mercy that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all longsuffering for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. If Jesus suffered in the flesh I will also it is a guaranteed thing 1st John 3:1 Behold what manner of love, (Jesus on the cross, nailing my sins to the cross) the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God; therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not...People don't know who I am because they don't know Jesus the Muslims don't know Jesus so I am persecuted by them or the other soph called church denominational Christians...that is why they are having a time at the foot ball field or the Gay parade... instead of doing what the bible says...they are fanatics the soph called Christians they love it..but their destination is hell...I read in the bible that God turned people over to homosexuals and murders and other kinds of people in the bible because they refuse to acknowledge him and give him the glory...the bible is God's trap...nobody is born a homosexual like man kind want us to believe God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ fixed them... and will sent them to hell unless they repent and turn to his word to Christ 1st Corinthians 6 or Revelation 21:8...one quick point here there is only one God and the Son who is on his right hand power today, (not Mohammad) in Christ (the word) he is in me...how do I say that Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? there is no God beside me; a just God and a Saviour there is none else beside me. Then Jesus came, however there is no God beside God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ....the Son is on the right hand power and now in Christ he is in me and the Father also...Jesus said to keep his commandments there my Father and I will make our abode in him....in John 14:21 and 23....this word of God keeps the stars up and the planets spinning and what healed me of cerebral Palsy and of all sickness and all my sins according to the word of God the bible is blotted out and my God doesn't remember them at all...Jesus carried my sickness and sin Colossians chapter 2..he nailed them to the cross.

...Get in the bible. read how Mohammad copied the bible and how not being of God used it to deceive a lot of people....diabolically..(when it is not of God it is of the devil that is diabolical is used in this context)


Andrew Kelly A.K.A. Biblepreacher

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here's one of them.

[muslim786]

Isn't it a bit rude posting someone elses email in public like this or do you have permission?

[muslim786]

Having said that the guy probably would want u too, in his eyes ure doing his dawah. LOL